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anonymous
 3 years ago
The Cheating Project
anonymous
 3 years ago
The Cheating Project

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anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Cheating has been an ongoing problem with online courses. And when the student cheats, it defeats the purpose of the online course: In the end, they don't learn anything. It's horrible for the new generation of learners, and we can't let this problem go as it currently stands... You'll more accurately understand what I mean if you'd take a look at this heartwrentching post by @MissTeacherLady16 on this thread: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/5137a46fe4b01c4790d01ba4 @AravindG and I figured that there must be something to be done about it, so I winged up this project, currently entitled "The Cheating Project". The goal of this project is obvious: to stop the excessive cheating going on, when "learning". I'd love to have suggestions about this project, how to go about it, and the demo which I programmed currently resides on http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2:) I hope this Project will be a success !! ^_^ cheers !

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i managed to open a new tab without getting caught. total failure.

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@umarsBack we just started with this! It takes time to make a foolproof project ..the demo is put up so that you understand what we intend to do in the project .

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2DEMO OF THE CHEATING PROJECT Science test (no cheating): 1. Do pigs fly ? Yes. No. Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread. You're welcome :3 Don't quite work when disabling Javascript :D

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2I do support the project tho :P (I thought online schools already had something against this o.o) I mean during my state mandated test, I was part of a team that could take it online. There was no way to cheat :P

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2But thats not the case happening here :(

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Haha, it's still new. I've sure it can improve :).

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2something is better than nothing :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Yes, it's still a work in progress... Thank you @opcode for your feedback. I have noticed, however, that online tests, like the Scranton Test, as well as some online courses like OmegaMath and Keystone, they have no protection whatsoever, and others like Advanced Academics have very little. I'm gonna work for a safeproof when JavaScript is disabled... any other way of getting past ?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0From the demo at http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject : Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread.

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2well i tried to open a new tab ..then google chrome showed dialog ..then i checked prevent site from opening additional dialogs and i could get away from it

mathslover
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Good work @dumbsearch2 . Really good...

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Yes, but if you do that, you're stilled reported @AravindG , as explained by the dialog box.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Thank you, @mathslover . :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@umarsback Before saying that this project is a total failure, I am curious how you opened the new tab... this would be a lot more constructive to tell me how, as I could correct this issue... if it's by disabling JavaScript, well that is currently getting fixed.

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@Preetha what do you think about our project :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I've just released a new version of The Cheating Project, which now reports disabling JavaScript... Disabling JavaScript could hinder the abilities of the cheating protection... As always, the URL is here: http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/ Report any loophole, I think this is getting really good! ^_^

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumsearch Did you mention me somewhere, it said you did?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yes, curious on your thought about it :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it took me forever to get out of the demo. :o

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yes thats the point and if you try, you get reported ^_^ It's a demo for a reallife situation It's a success if it's hard ^_^

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it DID say i can stop the page from displaying additional pop ups. and that's how i got out.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumbsearch2 Its good!

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i would so fail all of my homework and exams if this is successful. just saying.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Yes, you'll be able to get out, but as the alert warned, you will be reported if you persist. @brookie5150

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but i really like the concept of it. how will it "inform your teacher"?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it will contact the provided address for whoever the course or administrator specifies to notify.

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2^^ this guy is awesome :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0haha, no. :) @Aravindg is much awesomer xD

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0sounds like you have this all wellthought out, outstanding job!

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Thank you! :) @brookie5150

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2I just realized something... Download page as .html Disconnect your internet. Open it... No security :3

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0why would there be no security ? @opcode

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0besides, in most cases you won't be able to submit your test offline if you do that you're saying that they could rightclick the link, download it... but what if each question is on a different page, and they'res no link, just a button ? there only getting one question when they download

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0and so your saying that they'd look up the answers on the downloaded file, and then go online to submit it ?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0besides, the downloaded file would still retain it's security, as far as I know

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2You can still download it... CTRL+S or access it from the menu tab of GC/IE/FF/NS And it wouldn't... I've already tested it.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it would report you when you try to near the top of the page ^_^

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0you get an alert besides, when you click ctrl, it gives you also gives you an alert

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0really ? which browser ?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0the teachers woudn't be notified if they downloaded it... but how would the students know that ? isn't this overkill? besides, how would they download the file ?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0weird works great on safari gonna check this out...

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0oh dear! your right! it only works in safari !

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Okay. Another bug. If you refresh the page and quickly move your mouse to the url. You can open tabs with out detection... As well as download the page etc.

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2opcode nice spotting ..keep going :D

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Also web about text based browsers?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0text based browsers ? most courses require javascript lets not go that far xD

mathslover
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I used to do this spotting in my friends's copy when a teacher checks that I just say " Sir, there is the mistake !!! " and he just fills the complete work with red pen : ) I used to like that and tease them but just when I was a child. Though what opcode is doing is really nice!!! as it will help the @dumbsearch2 project be successful .

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0stupid security in chrome blocks me from preventing tab actions via shortcuts!#@$

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0ah disabled cut&paste

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but opening tabs seems not to be disabled via shortcuts on chrome

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Well, at least it blocks keyboard actions on Safari, but I'm still unable to get it working on Chrome... http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I added further protection on copy+paste.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@karatechopper Any suggestion ?

yrelhan4
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0how do you guys do that? :O good job. keep going and all the best. :D

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Thank you, @yrelhan4 :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@Opcode It currently works best on Safari But I improved the copy+paste protection on Chrome

karatechopper
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1I say good luck :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Thank you, @karatechopper :)

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Thanks, @swag! :D Any suggestions ?

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@dumbsearch2 i founded a flaw...i used shortcut key for minimizing and then i could use a different browser to open openstudy !

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0well woudn't it be harder since it's not possible to copy+paste ?

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2hmm.. if its a small question the user can easily type that out

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yeaa I can't really do anything about those deep, deep windows controls

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2hmm... Assuming the student is not that good with shortcut keys All izz well !

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@Opcode any suggestions on that ?

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Yes. Create your own browser. And block all shortcut commands >:D

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2^^ mind blowing..i fell off from my chair

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0um this would not really work

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403688/webpagedetectandblockcertainkeyboardshortcuts :O

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I know that already . :(( @AravindG

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2It's possible. I mean looking back at me state test that I took online, they had their own browser. It literately blocked ever key command, the only way was to get the teacher to approve you her computer. Which would force log you out, and then you could use the other browser. If they were serious in stopping cheating, they could easily make a system like this.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0they could... but I still think that this is a project which COULD reduce the amount of cheating, (I just found code to detect cheating in history), and I think it would not remove the flexibility of online schooling.

Opcode
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2In history? Do share... :3

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0the :visited selector in CSS

Frostbite
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I'll be sad to say that fighting plagiarism is not that easy.

mathslover
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumbsearch2 I am able to open a new tab on chrome : ctrl + T

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yes. It's still in development, but blocking new tabs via shortcuts has already been implemented in Safari.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Everybody! :D We've released a new version of the cheating project! :D ^_^ Check it out! :) http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@frogs29 @Agent_Sniffles @opcode @FlaCaLOL @help123please.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I hope this project will expand, and to get some volunteers! ^_^

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I think this is great!

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0thank you! :) enter your email if you'd like to be a part of it ^_^

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0What kind of help do you need yet?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Quote: "Want to join us? Enter your email address to give suggestions, alpha test or join the team:"

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Are you "nnnnn@nnn.com"?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Please enter a real email address, @frogs29 , cause even if it's a mailinator address, otherwise it's impossible to contact you.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I dont really want everyone to know my email but can i message it to you?

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2this is the sscreen i have ......

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it's not everyone, it just gets sent to me @frogs29

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yes @AravindG I see the "our forum" in yellow!! Which screen contrasting do you have set up ?

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2you see?? have I gone colour blind !!

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I see the screenshot! It's yellow! Is your screen not configured properly ?

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2i dunno let me try another browser

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@dumbsearch2 can you circle that portion where you want me to click ?

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it's at drop your two cents at *the forum"

AravindG
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2for me its just text not hyperlink

poopsiedoodle
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0what am I doing here? oo

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I would love your feedback, poopsie! :D

poopsiedoodle
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Tomorrow. Bed now.

poopsiedoodle
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0But first, a post in the OS feedback section.

KonradZuse
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0The problem is you are trying to limit user actions, on their own computer, which can be illegal. you are trying to limit opening new tabs and going to new tabs when on openstudy, so how do they get out? What if they close open study, check for an answer, and then come back? We cannot try to make using the site harder, as that will make users extremely unhappy, and will kill activity on this sie.

anonymous
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Haha, no. You mistook the purpose of this project. The whole point is that this is a service which could be used on online tests, to prevent cheating. I see no practical purposes of using this on OpenStudy.

KonradZuse
 3 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Oh, sorry :p. If you look at my latest post from the teacher of an online school you would see that if these schools implemented a "in house final" these students wont be cheating that much :).
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