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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Cheating has been an ongoing problem with online courses. And when the student cheats, it defeats the purpose of the online course: In the end, they don't learn anything. It's horrible for the new generation of learners, and we can't let this problem go as it currently stands... You'll more accurately understand what I mean if you'd take a look at this heartwrentching post by @MissTeacherLady16 on this thread: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/5137a46fe4b01c4790d01ba4 @AravindG and I figured that there must be something to be done about it, so I winged up this project, currently entitled "The Cheating Project". The goal of this project is obvious: to stop the excessive cheating going on, when "learning". I'd love to have suggestions about this project, how to go about it, and the demo which I programmed currently resides on http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
:) I hope this Project will be a success !! ^_^ cheers !
 one year ago

UmarsBack Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i managed to open a new tab without getting caught. total failure.
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@umarsBack we just started with this! It takes time to make a foolproof project ..the demo is put up so that you understand what we intend to do in the project .
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Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
DEMO OF THE CHEATING PROJECT Science test (no cheating): 1. Do pigs fly ? Yes. No. Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread. You're welcome :3 Don't quite work when disabling Javascript :D
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I do support the project tho :P (I thought online schools already had something against this o.o) I mean during my state mandated test, I was part of a team that could take it online. There was no way to cheat :P
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
But thats not the case happening here :(
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Haha, it's still new. I've sure it can improve :).
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
something is better than nothing :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Yes, it's still a work in progress... Thank you @opcode for your feedback. I have noticed, however, that online tests, like the Scranton Test, as well as some online courses like OmegaMath and Keystone, they have no protection whatsoever, and others like Advanced Academics have very little. I'm gonna work for a safeproof when JavaScript is disabled... any other way of getting past ?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
From the demo at http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject : Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread.
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
well i tried to open a new tab ..then google chrome showed dialog ..then i checked prevent site from opening additional dialogs and i could get away from it
 one year ago

mathslover Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Good work @dumbsearch2 . Really good...
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Yes, but if you do that, you're stilled reported @AravindG , as explained by the dialog box.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thank you, @mathslover . :)
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
oh i see :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
@umarsback Before saying that this project is a total failure, I am curious how you opened the new tab... this would be a lot more constructive to tell me how, as I could correct this issue... if it's by disabling JavaScript, well that is currently getting fixed.
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@Preetha what do you think about our project :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I've just released a new version of The Cheating Project, which now reports disabling JavaScript... Disabling JavaScript could hinder the abilities of the cheating protection... As always, the URL is here: http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/ Report any loophole, I think this is getting really good! ^_^
 one year ago

erdog82 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@dumsearch Did you mention me somewhere, it said you did?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
yes, curious on your thought about it :)
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brookie5150 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it took me forever to get out of the demo. :o
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
yes thats the point and if you try, you get reported ^_^ It's a demo for a reallife situation It's a success if it's hard ^_^
 one year ago

brookie5150 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it DID say i can stop the page from displaying additional pop ups. and that's how i got out.
 one year ago

erdog82 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@dumbsearch2 Its good!
 one year ago

UmarsBack Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i would so fail all of my homework and exams if this is successful. just saying.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Yes, you'll be able to get out, but as the alert warned, you will be reported if you persist. @brookie5150
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thank you @erdog82
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brookie5150 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but i really like the concept of it. how will it "inform your teacher"?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
it will contact the provided address for whoever the course or administrator specifies to notify.
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
^^ this guy is awesome :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
haha, no. :) @Aravindg is much awesomer xD
 one year ago

brookie5150 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
sounds like you have this all wellthought out, outstanding job!
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thank you! :) @brookie5150
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I just realized something... Download page as .html Disconnect your internet. Open it... No security :3
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
why would there be no security ? @opcode
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
besides, in most cases you won't be able to submit your test offline if you do that you're saying that they could rightclick the link, download it... but what if each question is on a different page, and they'res no link, just a button ? there only getting one question when they download
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
and so your saying that they'd look up the answers on the downloaded file, and then go online to submit it ?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
besides, the downloaded file would still retain it's security, as far as I know
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Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
You can still download it... CTRL+S or access it from the menu tab of GC/IE/FF/NS And it wouldn't... I've already tested it.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
it would report you when you try to near the top of the page ^_^
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
you get an alert besides, when you click ctrl, it gives you also gives you an alert
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Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
It didn't report me :3
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
really ? which browser ?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
the teachers woudn't be notified if they downloaded it... but how would the students know that ? isn't this overkill? besides, how would they download the file ?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
weird works great on safari gonna check this out...
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
oh dear! your right! it only works in safari !
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Okay. Another bug. If you refresh the page and quickly move your mouse to the url. You can open tabs with out detection... As well as download the page etc.
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
opcode nice spotting ..keep going :D
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Also web about text based browsers?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
text based browsers ? most courses require javascript lets not go that far xD
 one year ago

mathslover Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I used to do this spotting in my friends's copy when a teacher checks that I just say " Sir, there is the mistake !!! " and he just fills the complete work with red pen : ) I used to like that and tease them but just when I was a child. Though what opcode is doing is really nice!!! as it will help the @dumbsearch2 project be successful .
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
stupid security in chrome blocks me from preventing tab actions via shortcuts!#@$
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
ah disabled cut&paste
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
but opening tabs seems not to be disabled via shortcuts on chrome
 one year ago

karatechopper Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Coolaid.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Well, at least it blocks keyboard actions on Safari, but I'm still unable to get it working on Chrome... http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I added further protection on copy+paste.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
@karatechopper Any suggestion ?
 one year ago

yrelhan4 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how do you guys do that? :O good job. keep going and all the best. :D
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thank you, @yrelhan4 :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
@Opcode It currently works best on Safari But I improved the copy+paste protection on Chrome
 one year ago

karatechopper Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I say good luck :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thank you, @karatechopper :)
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Thanks, @swag! :D Any suggestions ?
 one year ago

SWAG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Reply to my PM
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@dumbsearch2 i founded a flaw...i used shortcut key for minimizing and then i could use a different browser to open openstudy !
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Windows key + tab :3
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
^^exactly
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
well woudn't it be harder since it's not possible to copy+paste ?
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
hmm.. if its a small question the user can easily type that out
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
yeaa I can't really do anything about those deep, deep windows controls
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
hmm... Assuming the student is not that good with shortcut keys All izz well !
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@Opcode any suggestions on that ?
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Yes. Create your own browser. And block all shortcut commands >:D
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
^^ mind blowing..i fell off from my chair
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
um this would not really work
 one year ago

AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403688/webpagedetectandblockcertainkeyboardshortcuts :O
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I know that already . :(( @AravindG
 one year ago

Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
It's possible. I mean looking back at me state test that I took online, they had their own browser. It literately blocked ever key command, the only way was to get the teacher to approve you her computer. Which would force log you out, and then you could use the other browser. If they were serious in stopping cheating, they could easily make a system like this.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
they could... but I still think that this is a project which COULD reduce the amount of cheating, (I just found code to detect cheating in history), and I think it would not remove the flexibility of online schooling.
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Opcode Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
In history? Do share... :3
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
the :visited selector in CSS
 one year ago

Frostbite Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I'll be sad to say that fighting plagiarism is not that easy.
 one year ago

mathslover Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@dumbsearch2 I am able to open a new tab on chrome : ctrl + T
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
yes. It's still in development, but blocking new tabs via shortcuts has already been implemented in Safari.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Everybody! :D We've released a new version of the cheating project! :D ^_^ Check it out! :) http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
@frogs29 @Agent_Sniffles @opcode @FlaCaLOL @help123please.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I hope this project will expand, and to get some volunteers! ^_^
 one year ago

frogs29 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think this is great!
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
thank you! :) enter your email if you'd like to be a part of it ^_^
 one year ago

frogs29 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
What kind of help do you need yet?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Quote: "Want to join us? Enter your email address to give suggestions, alpha test or join the team:"
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Are you "nnnnn@nnn.com"?
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Please enter a real email address, @frogs29 , cause even if it's a mailinator address, otherwise it's impossible to contact you.
 one year ago

frogs29 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I dont really want everyone to know my email but can i message it to you?
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
this is the sscreen i have ......
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
it's not everyone, it just gets sent to me @frogs29
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
yes @AravindG I see the "our forum" in yellow!! Which screen contrasting do you have set up ?
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you see?? have I gone colour blind !!
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I see the screenshot! It's yellow! Is your screen not configured properly ?
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
i dunno let me try another browser
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@dumbsearch2 can you circle that portion where you want me to click ?
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
https://discussions.zoho.com/thecheatingproject#Home
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
it's at drop your two cents at *the forum"
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
for me its just text not hyperlink
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
try clicking on it ?
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AravindG Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok got it !! :)
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dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
@poopsiedoodle
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poopsiedoodle Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what am I doing here? oo
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
I would love your feedback, poopsie! :D
 one year ago

poopsiedoodle Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Tomorrow. Bed now.
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poopsiedoodle Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
But first, a post in the OS feedback section.
 one year ago

KonradZuse Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The problem is you are trying to limit user actions, on their own computer, which can be illegal. you are trying to limit opening new tabs and going to new tabs when on openstudy, so how do they get out? What if they close open study, check for an answer, and then come back? We cannot try to make using the site harder, as that will make users extremely unhappy, and will kill activity on this sie.
 one year ago

dumbsearch2 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9
Haha, no. You mistook the purpose of this project. The whole point is that this is a service which could be used on online tests, to prevent cheating. I see no practical purposes of using this on OpenStudy.
 one year ago

KonradZuse Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh, sorry :p. If you look at my latest post from the teacher of an online school you would see that if these schools implemented a "in house final" these students wont be cheating that much :).
 one year ago
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