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dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Cheating has been an ongoing problem with online courses. And when the student cheats, it defeats the purpose of the online course: In the end, they don't learn anything. It's horrible for the new generation of learners, and we can't let this problem go as it currently stands... You'll more accurately understand what I mean if you'd take a look at this heartwrentching post by @MissTeacherLady16 on this thread: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/5137a46fe4b01c4790d01ba4 @AravindG and I figured that there must be something to be done about it, so I winged up this project, currently entitled "The Cheating Project". The goal of this project is obvious: to stop the excessive cheating going on, when "learning". I'd love to have suggestions about this project, how to go about it, and the demo which I programmed currently resides on http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2:) I hope this Project will be a success !! ^_^ cheers !

UmarsBack
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1i managed to open a new tab without getting caught. total failure.

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@umarsBack we just started with this! It takes time to make a foolproof project ..the demo is put up so that you understand what we intend to do in the project .

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2DEMO OF THE CHEATING PROJECT Science test (no cheating): 1. Do pigs fly ? Yes. No. Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread. You're welcome :3 Don't quite work when disabling Javascript :D

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2I do support the project tho :P (I thought online schools already had something against this o.o) I mean during my state mandated test, I was part of a team that could take it online. There was no way to cheat :P

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2But thats not the case happening here :(

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Haha, it's still new. I've sure it can improve :).

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2something is better than nothing :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Yes, it's still a work in progress... Thank you @opcode for your feedback. I have noticed, however, that online tests, like the Scranton Test, as well as some online courses like OmegaMath and Keystone, they have no protection whatsoever, and others like Advanced Academics have very little. I'm gonna work for a safeproof when JavaScript is disabled... any other way of getting past ?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9From the demo at http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject : Note: where this project is going, well, I've decided that after I've perfected this concept, I could release this as a cutandpaste JavaScript solution for online courses to try to stop cheating as much as possible. First, I'd love to receive ideas. Currently blocked/reported actions:  Right clicking to research on services like Google, or to cutandpaste for cheating.  Physical mouse actions, like minimizing the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating.  Keyboard shortcuts, like miniming the window, or closing/opening a tab, for cheating. Contact me at dumbsearch@icloud.com if your interested in contributing. You can also drop ideas on the OpenStudy thread.

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2well i tried to open a new tab ..then google chrome showed dialog ..then i checked prevent site from opening additional dialogs and i could get away from it

mathslover
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Good work @dumbsearch2 . Really good...

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Yes, but if you do that, you're stilled reported @AravindG , as explained by the dialog box.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thank you, @mathslover . :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9@umarsback Before saying that this project is a total failure, I am curious how you opened the new tab... this would be a lot more constructive to tell me how, as I could correct this issue... if it's by disabling JavaScript, well that is currently getting fixed.

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@Preetha what do you think about our project :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I've just released a new version of The Cheating Project, which now reports disabling JavaScript... Disabling JavaScript could hinder the abilities of the cheating protection... As always, the URL is here: http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/ Report any loophole, I think this is getting really good! ^_^

erdog82
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumsearch Did you mention me somewhere, it said you did?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9yes, curious on your thought about it :)

brookie5150
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it took me forever to get out of the demo. :o

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9yes thats the point and if you try, you get reported ^_^ It's a demo for a reallife situation It's a success if it's hard ^_^

brookie5150
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it DID say i can stop the page from displaying additional pop ups. and that's how i got out.

erdog82
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumbsearch2 Its good!

UmarsBack
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1i would so fail all of my homework and exams if this is successful. just saying.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Yes, you'll be able to get out, but as the alert warned, you will be reported if you persist. @brookie5150

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thank you @erdog82

brookie5150
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but i really like the concept of it. how will it "inform your teacher"?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9it will contact the provided address for whoever the course or administrator specifies to notify.

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2^^ this guy is awesome :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9haha, no. :) @Aravindg is much awesomer xD

brookie5150
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0sounds like you have this all wellthought out, outstanding job!

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thank you! :) @brookie5150

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2I just realized something... Download page as .html Disconnect your internet. Open it... No security :3

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9why would there be no security ? @opcode

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9besides, in most cases you won't be able to submit your test offline if you do that you're saying that they could rightclick the link, download it... but what if each question is on a different page, and they'res no link, just a button ? there only getting one question when they download

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9and so your saying that they'd look up the answers on the downloaded file, and then go online to submit it ?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9besides, the downloaded file would still retain it's security, as far as I know

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2You can still download it... CTRL+S or access it from the menu tab of GC/IE/FF/NS And it wouldn't... I've already tested it.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9it would report you when you try to near the top of the page ^_^

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9you get an alert besides, when you click ctrl, it gives you also gives you an alert

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9really ? which browser ?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9the teachers woudn't be notified if they downloaded it... but how would the students know that ? isn't this overkill? besides, how would they download the file ?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9weird works great on safari gonna check this out...

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9oh dear! your right! it only works in safari !

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Okay. Another bug. If you refresh the page and quickly move your mouse to the url. You can open tabs with out detection... As well as download the page etc.

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2opcode nice spotting ..keep going :D

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Also web about text based browsers?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9text based browsers ? most courses require javascript lets not go that far xD

mathslover
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I used to do this spotting in my friends's copy when a teacher checks that I just say " Sir, there is the mistake !!! " and he just fills the complete work with red pen : ) I used to like that and tease them but just when I was a child. Though what opcode is doing is really nice!!! as it will help the @dumbsearch2 project be successful .

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9stupid security in chrome blocks me from preventing tab actions via shortcuts!#@$

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9ah disabled cut&paste

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9but opening tabs seems not to be disabled via shortcuts on chrome

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Well, at least it blocks keyboard actions on Safari, but I'm still unable to get it working on Chrome... http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject/

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I added further protection on copy+paste.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9@karatechopper Any suggestion ?

yrelhan4
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0how do you guys do that? :O good job. keep going and all the best. :D

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thank you, @yrelhan4 :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9@Opcode It currently works best on Safari But I improved the copy+paste protection on Chrome

karatechopper
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1I say good luck :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thank you, @karatechopper :)

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Thanks, @swag! :D Any suggestions ?

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@dumbsearch2 i founded a flaw...i used shortcut key for minimizing and then i could use a different browser to open openstudy !

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9well woudn't it be harder since it's not possible to copy+paste ?

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2hmm.. if its a small question the user can easily type that out

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9yeaa I can't really do anything about those deep, deep windows controls

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2hmm... Assuming the student is not that good with shortcut keys All izz well !

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@Opcode any suggestions on that ?

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2Yes. Create your own browser. And block all shortcut commands >:D

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2^^ mind blowing..i fell off from my chair

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9um this would not really work

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403688/webpagedetectandblockcertainkeyboardshortcuts :O

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I know that already . :(( @AravindG

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2It's possible. I mean looking back at me state test that I took online, they had their own browser. It literately blocked ever key command, the only way was to get the teacher to approve you her computer. Which would force log you out, and then you could use the other browser. If they were serious in stopping cheating, they could easily make a system like this.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9they could... but I still think that this is a project which COULD reduce the amount of cheating, (I just found code to detect cheating in history), and I think it would not remove the flexibility of online schooling.

Opcode
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2In history? Do share... :3

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9the :visited selector in CSS

Frostbite
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I'll be sad to say that fighting plagiarism is not that easy.

mathslover
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@dumbsearch2 I am able to open a new tab on chrome : ctrl + T

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9yes. It's still in development, but blocking new tabs via shortcuts has already been implemented in Safari.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Everybody! :D We've released a new version of the cheating project! :D ^_^ Check it out! :) http://www.dumbsearch.com/thecheatingproject

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9@frogs29 @Agent_Sniffles @opcode @FlaCaLOL @help123please.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I hope this project will expand, and to get some volunteers! ^_^

frogs29
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I think this is great!

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9thank you! :) enter your email if you'd like to be a part of it ^_^

frogs29
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0What kind of help do you need yet?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Quote: "Want to join us? Enter your email address to give suggestions, alpha test or join the team:"

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Are you "nnnnn@nnn.com"?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Please enter a real email address, @frogs29 , cause even if it's a mailinator address, otherwise it's impossible to contact you.

frogs29
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I dont really want everyone to know my email but can i message it to you?

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2this is the sscreen i have ......

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9it's not everyone, it just gets sent to me @frogs29

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9yes @AravindG I see the "our forum" in yellow!! Which screen contrasting do you have set up ?

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2you see?? have I gone colour blind !!

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I see the screenshot! It's yellow! Is your screen not configured properly ?

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2i dunno let me try another browser

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2@dumbsearch2 can you circle that portion where you want me to click ?

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9it's at drop your two cents at *the forum"

AravindG
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2for me its just text not hyperlink

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9try clicking on it ?

poopsiedoodle
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0what am I doing here? oo

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9I would love your feedback, poopsie! :D

poopsiedoodle
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Tomorrow. Bed now.

poopsiedoodle
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0But first, a post in the OS feedback section.

KonradZuse
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0The problem is you are trying to limit user actions, on their own computer, which can be illegal. you are trying to limit opening new tabs and going to new tabs when on openstudy, so how do they get out? What if they close open study, check for an answer, and then come back? We cannot try to make using the site harder, as that will make users extremely unhappy, and will kill activity on this sie.

dumbsearch2
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.9Haha, no. You mistook the purpose of this project. The whole point is that this is a service which could be used on online tests, to prevent cheating. I see no practical purposes of using this on OpenStudy.

KonradZuse
 one year ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Oh, sorry :p. If you look at my latest post from the teacher of an online school you would see that if these schools implemented a "in house final" these students wont be cheating that much :).
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