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The type of bread chosen for this special calculus toast isn't the square sandwich shape, but the kind that is curved across the top. Imagine that the toast is composed of the curved part sitting atop the rectangular portion. The equation of the curved part of the toast is x2/4 + y2 = 1, and it sits directly and perfectly on top of a rectangle of height 3 inches. a) What are the equations of the rectangular boundaries? b) Graph the toast boundaries, making certain to include screen shots of the boundary equations, Window settings, and the graph. c) How would you find the length of the curve
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ok
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then
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modphysnoob Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
once you find two x values , they are your answer for a)
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Best_Mathematician Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is x two negative values
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modphysnoob Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
is x squred?
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Best_Mathematician Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ya here is the equation again \[\frac{ x^2 }{ 4 } + y^2 = 1\]
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modphysnoob Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ahh, that's different, this is ellipse x^2/4 + (y3)^2 = 1
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modphysnoob Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now plug in y=3, x^2/4=1 x^2=4 x=2,2 that's your part a
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sweet ur r doing grt go ahead
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modphysnoob Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
part b is graphing,
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Here's the graph, done without benefit of the above
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Best_Mathematician Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i wud just graph that right
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oh thx @dlipson1 can u go further
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Uh oh, I think that's a line integral, I'd have to look that up. Do you know anything about Stochastic Optimization?
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hey hey hey never mind...i know how to find the length of the curve thanks..but i dont knw do i need to find length of whole curve or just the bread as in ur graph
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Well, the rectangle is trivial (is the side along the xaxis included?), the top is just half the ellipse, that's the only real calculus (integration) you have to do.
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so from negative 2 to 2...right
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yeah, use the top half, y = sqrt(...), then (I just looked it up): Length = integral (sqrt(1+(y')^2))dy
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ya and what kinda graphing calculator r u using dude
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
http://www.padowan.dk/ and Google > http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/ArcLength.aspx
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thx...getting my next question...i wud give u a lot of awards but unfortunately this site doesnt aloow lol
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
"Graph" (from padowan.dk) gives me the curve length of 4.882, then +3+3 +4 for the entire perimeter.
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sweet thanks
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hey @dlipson1 one more thing, how wud we find area on top of the toast
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The rectangle + 2*integral (by symmetry) from 0 to 2 of y = sqrt(1x^2/4)... hmm, do we need substitution here?
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Best_Mathematician Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
do u need the derivative...i have it
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x/(4y12)....now wht to do
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'm not sure dy/dx helps. I set up the integral, thought about a trig. substitution, multiplied through by the 2 (as sqrt(4)) to get int(sqrt(4x^2))dx, which I found here, but I think there must be an easier way (like polar coordinates): http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071231235113AAAAfuP
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dlipson1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Here is almost the same problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSlsj0IP8R8
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