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help help help. Determine the extrema of f(x)= (4)* x/ x^2+7 below on the given interval
(a) on [1,4]
The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ??
(b) on [1,5]
The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ??
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help help help. Determine the extrema of f(x)= (4)* x/ x^2+7 below on the given interval (a) on [1,4] The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ?? (b) on [1,5] The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ??
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mathcalculus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
do we use the quadratic formula for this one?
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mattt9 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
did you find the derivative?
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mathcalculus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
derivative is 1*x^2+72x*(4)*x/ (x^2+7)^2
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from there.. x^26x+7/x^4+14x^2+49
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then i = to 0
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and i'm left with x^26x+7
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mathcalculus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
however, i can't factor this... so do i use quadratic formula?
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mattt9 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah I did not check your math, however if it is correct then use the quadratic formula.
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can you try the problem also?
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i want to know if its correct.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
"derivative is 1*x^2+72x*(4)*x/ (x^2+7)^2" That first term shouldn't be a 1. The derivative of 4x is not 1. I think that should fix it up for you.
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yes i must of typed it wrong. but that's exactly what i got here.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(4)}(x^2+7)(4x)\color{royalblue}{(2x)}}{(x^2+7)^2}\]
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then after..
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Set it equal to zero, then multiply both sides by the denominator. Don't do long division or anything silly like that.
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yeah i ended up with x^26x+7/x^4+14x^2+49
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Sorry website wasn't working...
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\[\large 0=\frac{4x^228+8x^2}{(x^2+7)^2}\]Multiplying both sides by the denominator gives us,\[\large 0=4x^228+8x^2\] I don't understand how you got the x term in the middle.
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how do i get the derivative. can you show me?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\large f(x)=\frac{4x}{x^2+7}\] Remember the quotient rule, it will tell us to setup the derivative like this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(4x)'}(x^2+7)(4x)\color{royalblue}{(x^2+7)'}}{(x^2+7)^2}\]The blue terms are the ones we need to differentiate.
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according to the quotient rule.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Which gives us this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(4)}(x^2+7)(4x)\color{royalblue}{(2x)}}{(x^2+7)^2}\] Which simplifies to this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{4x^228+8x^2}{(x^2+7)^2}\]Right?
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oh ok thank u!
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then it's 4x^228 right?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yes. From there you can find a critical point.
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radical + or 7
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@zepdrix
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i appreciate your help a lot. i just need time to figure this out... :(
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Yah that sounds right. So we have a couple steps now. We plug our `critical points` into the original function, and write down the \(\large f\) values they produce. Then, plug the `end points` into the original function, and write down the \(\large f\) values they produce. Then simply compare the \(\large f\) values. The largest will be your maximum. The smallest, your minimum.
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\[\large x \in\left[1,4\right]\]These are our end points, 1 and 4. The end points of our interval.
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mathcalculus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is the first critical point: 2 radical 7/7 ?
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thats the positive criticla point that i used.
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@zepdrix
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yah that sounds right.
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mathcalculus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and the f ( radical 7) is 4 radical 7?
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hope it's right :(
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are you checking to see if i am doing the problem correct?
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very worried, please help me.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
no the negative root should produce 2sqrt7/7 i think.
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it's not \[\frac{ 2\sqrt{7} }{ 7 }\] ??
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