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Which number makes this equation true?
v^2 + 10v + 16 = (v + 8)(v + ?)
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lyzzy7 Group Title
Which number makes this equation true? v^2 + 10v + 16 = (v + 8)(v + ?)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
@jim_thompson5910
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ParthKohli Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I know a shortcut... can I say it?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
if you were to set up a table, the lower right corner would have the value of 8*? where the answer would replace the question mark
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes please @ParthKohli
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
8*? has to equal 16 so basically 8p = 16 p = ???
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
where p is that answer
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yep, you nailed it
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so v^2 + 10v + 16 = (v + 8)(v + ?) turns into v^2 + 10v + 16 = (v + 8)(v + 2)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
What is the factored form of x^2 + 6x + 8?
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ParthKohli Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The shortcut says that in \(v^2 + \color{blue}{10}v + \rm something \) and \((v + \color{green}{a})(v + \color{green}{b})\), the sum of the greens is the blue guy.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
find two numbers that a) multiply to 8 (last term) AND b) add to 6 (middle coefficient)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
im confused @ParthKohli
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
2 and 4 . @jim_thompson5910
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ParthKohli Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
It's simple. You have \((v + 8)(v + ?)\). This shortcut says that \(8 + ? = 10\).
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
So x^2 + 6x + 8 factors to (x+2)(x+4) The rule is that x^2 + bx + c factors to (x+m)(x+n) where m+n = b and m*n = c
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ohhh! @ParthKohli thanks :)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
So it's just a matter of finding those two numbers then writing it in the form (x+number1)(x+number2)
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ParthKohli Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I know that was sarcastic. _
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
hold on im thinking @jim_thompson5910
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
5 and 3?? @jim_thompson5910
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you found the numbers already by saying 2 and 4 2+4 = 6 (middle coefficient) 2*4 = 8 (last term)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so because you found two numbers that multiply to 8 AND add to 6 the factorization of x^2 + 6x + 8 would be (x+2)(x+4)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so it's (x + 4)(x + 2) ?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
go ahead and expand out (x+2)(x+4) you'll find that you'll get x^2 + 6x + 8 back again
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so essentially what you've done is gone in reverse of expanding (which was done in the previous problem)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i mostly get what you're saying. i have one more if you're willing to help?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
correct, the order of the factors doesn't matter so (x+2)(x+4) is the same as (x+2)(x+4)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
i meant (x+2)(x+4) is the same as (x+4)(x+2)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
sure go for it
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
What is the factored form of x^2 – 7x + 12? and dont worry i knew what you meant lol
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
same idea, just different numbers
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
find two numbers that multiply to 12 AND add to 7
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
perfect
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so it factors to (x3)(x4)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
(x – 4)(x – 3) ?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
unfortunately this trick only works if the leading coefficient is 1, but it's still useful
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you got it
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
that's the same as (x3)(x4) because the order of the factors does not matter ex: 2 time 3 = 6 and 3 times 2 = 6
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
okay i have a different kind of problem... The area of a garden is given by the trinomial g2 – 2g – 24. The garden’s length is g + 4. What is the garden’s width?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
well it's actually the same type of problem, just worded differently
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
they want you to factor g^2  2g  24
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
what do you get when you do?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
write me an equation then and let me solve it :)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
like for the question
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
find me two numbers that multiply to 24 and add to 2 at the same time
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
6 plus 4 = 10 and it does NOT equal 2
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so try again
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oops lol hold on
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
6 and 4? 6*4= 24 6+4 = 2 i think lol
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
good
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
So g^2  2g  24 factors to (g6)(g+4)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
notice how g+4 is a factor
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
the other factor is g6
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
let's go back to the question The area of a garden is given by the trinomial g2 – 2g – 24. The garden’s length is g + 4. What is the garden’s width?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
correct since Area = Length times Width
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so if you have some area expression and you factor it, you get (Length)*(Width) where length and width are the factors of the area
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I actually get that!
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
it only works for rectangles though
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
that's great
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
hb this one? What is the factored form of 4x^2 + 12x + 5?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok now the leading coefficient isn't 1 anymore, so we can't use that trick (well not the whole thing anyways)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
but we can still use some of the trick
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
first multiply 4 (first coefficient) and 5 (last term) to get 4*5 = 20
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
now list two numbers that multiply to 20 AND add to 12 (middle coefficient)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
is it (4x + 5)(x + 1) ?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so we break 12x into 2x + 10x then we factor by grouping 4x^2+12x+5 4x^2+2x+10x+5 (4x^2+2x)+(10x+5) 2x(2x+1)+(10x+5) 2x(2x+1)+5(2x+1) (2x+5)(2x+1)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
hopefully factoring by grouping is a familiar term
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so the final answer is (2x + 1)(2x + 5), right?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
correct
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
hopefully you see how I got all that
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
okay, thanks :D and lol yeah mostly.
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The area of a rectangular swimming pool is 10x2 – 19x – 15. The length of the pool is 5x + 3. What is the width of the pool?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
alright, just keep practicing and it'll make more sense
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
10*(15) = 150
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
find two numbers that multiply to 150 and they add to 19
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
why do you multiply 10 and 15?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
because I'm using the AC method for factoring this method starts out by multiplying the first and last coefficients
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
then you find two numbers that multiply to that result and add to the middle number
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so the formula is ax^2 + bx + c right?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
that's a basic form of a quadratic, yes
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you would multiply 'a' and 'c' to get a*c or just ac then you find two numbers that multiply to ac and add to b
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so that's why they call it the ac method
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I cant find the two numbers that multiply to 150 and add to 19..
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
im too dumb..
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
no you're not
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
stop that
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
there's a long list to check, but luckily there's a shortcut
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
have you heard of the quadratic formula before?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
noo. my teacher sucks this year. she is retiring so she doesnt teach us anything useful, she just assigns stuff and tells us to read our book to figure out how to do it, but the book has no tips or tricks.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ah i'm sry to hear that, at least she'll be gone and a (hopefully) better teacher will take over
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yeah im going to a private school next year, sadly now i need to get a second job because its $6,000 a year.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
dang that's quite pricey
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
well anyways, the quadratic formula isn't that bad to learn (it's a bit ugly the first time you see it, but once you get used to it, it's not so bad)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i know right, and okay shoot
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
the quadratic formula is \[\Large x = \frac{b\pm\sqrt{b^24ac}}{2a}\] does that formula look familiar?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok but does it look readable by that I mean, could you simplify that formula if you had to (or if you had to plug in numbers for a, b, and c)?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i guess so.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok in this case, a = 10, b = 19 and c = 15 we plug those values into the formula to get this (there's a lot of steps, but just take things one step at a time) \[\Large x = \frac{b\pm\sqrt{b^24ac}}{2a}\] \[\Large x = \frac{(19)\pm\sqrt{(19)^24(10)(15)}}{2(10)}\] \[\Large x = \frac{19\pm\sqrt{361(600)}}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{19\pm\sqrt{361+600}}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{19\pm\sqrt{961}}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{19+\sqrt{961}}{20} \ \text{or} \ x = \frac{19\sqrt{961}}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{19+31}{20} \ \text{or} \ x = \frac{1931}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{50}{20} \ \text{or} \ x = \frac{12}{20}\] \[\Large x = \frac{5}{2} \ \text{or} \ x = \frac{3}{5}\] Let me know when you want to continue.
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I honestly have no clue what any of that is. att all. like at all. im taking algebra 1 btw. im in 8th grade. but i really have cant even read that...
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
like i cant even read it in my head let alone get it. i have a headache.
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
fml. i hate math.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
alright, sorry jumped too far ahead
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
its not your fault. it just is ridiculous that something that complicated even exists. i hate this world.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
well much more complicated things exist (that even I don't understand), but that's what keeps things interesting
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
let's ignore the quadratic formula until you get more practice with it
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
soo what is the answer to this? The area of a rectangular swimming pool is 10x2 – 19x – 15. The length of the pool is 5x + 3. What is the width of the pool? its like 5 am where i live and i still havent slept.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
why not sleep then come back?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
10(15) = 150 find two numbers that multiply to 150 and add to 19 ....do a bunch of trial and error guesses... you'll find that the two numbers are 6 and 25 So this means... 10x^219x15 10x^2+6x25x15 (10x^2+6x)+(25x15) 2x(5x+3)+(25x15) 2x(5x+3)5(5x+3) (2x5)(5x+3)  In short 10x^219x15 completely factors to (2x5)(5x+3)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
because the kind of person i am, when i have something on my mind, i have to get it done before i'd ever care for myself.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
i gotcha, that's both a good and bad trait because yes it's good to be this motivated, but not when you're sleep deprived (you won't learn much without a good night's sleep)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so anyways, back to the problem above I showed how 10x^219x15 factors to (2x5)(5x+3) 5x+3 was one factor we were already given, 2x5 is the other one So the width is 2x5
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Got it. and the length is 5x+3 right?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so length = 5x + 3 (given) width = 2x  5 (just found this)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
correct
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ughhh now i have to solve two more, then ima sleep. thank you so much for the help!
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
sure thing
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
go ahead and post and hopefully it won't take too long
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
then you can finally sleep (til you have to get up in the morning...ugh lol)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you sure? i mean i could try to do them on my own if you want.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
sure whatever works best for you
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
how about you work them and I check what you get
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
or I can show you how if you're stuck
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
alright heres this one What is the factored form of 2x2 + x – 3? then i'll do the other.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok 2(3) = 6 find two numbers that multiply to 6 and add to 1 those two numbers are 3 and 2 so... 2x^2+x3 2x^2+3x2x3 ... break 1x into 3x  2x, then factor by grouping (2x^2+3x)+(2x3) x(2x+3)+(2x3) x(2x+3)1(2x+3) (x1)(2x+3)  2x^2+x3 completely factors to (x1)(2x+3)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
hopefully I didn't cut you off there?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
no you're good, i was just going to say the two numbers. but how in god's name did you do that so fast....
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
lol magic
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ah i should have let you say the two numbers, but hopefully you got 3 and 2 ?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yeah i did lol
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
ok perfect, you'll be a pro in no time
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you just need to practice more with factoring by grouping (and the quadratic formula when you get more time)
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and for the other one it was What is the factored form of 3x2 + 21x – 24? and i got 3(x + 8)(x – 1) am i almost right?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
no, you're not almost right....you're absolutely correct (lol I wanted to sound like a game show host for a sec)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
nice work
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
OMG YAY:))) Thank you sooo much! like i really didnt get half my stuff till you helped lol
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
glad to be of help, now get some sleep lol
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
will do, thank you :)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I know, I probably sound like your mom, but idc lol
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yw
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
your good lol! how old are u by the way?
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lol nah its cool. and its amazing that you put your brain to help people. what do you do as a job?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
but thanks lol
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i hope you go far! honestly
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
thanks, i hope so too
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
definitely getting a lot of practice here lol
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lyzzy7 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lol, there ya go!
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
and building networks as well (well sorta i guess)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so that's another plus
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