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DLS
 2 years ago
1)A disc has pure rotation.It has angular velocity w.It then comes into contact with a surface which has static friction us,kinetic friction uk and rolling friction ur,When will the disc stop?
2)A disc is placed on the ground.The coefficient of friction is u,and the coefficient of rolling friction is u_r.What is the minimum force required to move the disc?The force is applied at the bottom most point
DLS
 2 years ago
1)A disc has pure rotation.It has angular velocity w.It then comes into contact with a surface which has static friction us,kinetic friction uk and rolling friction ur,When will the disc stop? 2)A disc is placed on the ground.The coefficient of friction is u,and the coefficient of rolling friction is u_r.What is the minimum force required to move the disc?The force is applied at the bottom most point

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Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0should we consider all the types of friction in question 1? :P.. we can only consider rotational rigth? :D..

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1you will require all 3,when you start the question you will realise :)

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but at a time only one friction comes into play.. ! :/

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but it ll only act for a particular small amount of time.. which i dunno how we could calculate :P

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0and besides i really don't think the static and kinetic have to be considered.. i mean how can you consider static? the wheel is already in rotation .. so no question of static.. and the moment it would come in contact it would start rolling OR slipping.. so only one would come into picture!

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1proceed with whatever u want :/

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0wait.. rolling friction wouldn't make it stop :D.. it should be the kinetic friction :D

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0so as i was saying it should be rotational friction itself anyways wat about mass and the radius?!

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0lol just like tat you grant wishes huh? :D lol

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0so now there would be a force acting creating a torque that would eventually sue the rolling.. so i guess all you have to do is finde the torque.. then you can find the deceleration!

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1in the end you will get F=f

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1after applying torque equation n stuff

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0what?!? f = (mur)N/R.... thats the formula for rolling friction right?!

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it depends upon the dimensions of mur .. rolling friction can be expressed in both the ways :P

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1abe yr ata hai to kar kya ghante me reply kar rha h :/

Mashy
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0arre sorry.. i was wtching dbz abridged :D..

wio
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0When it comes to static and kinetic friction, my intuition, and it could be wrong, is that static friction is only meant as a thresh hold to find out whether the object will be moved. Kinetic friction on the other hand is something which applied a resting force over time.

VincentLyon.Fr
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0What is your definition of µr (rolling friction coefficient)? It is important, because it is only if rolling friction exists that the disc will eventually come to a halt. Otherwise, it will roll for ever.

DLS
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Your answer is right. I don't have the exact definition of µr (rolling friction coefficient) or even rolling friction. I just know that rolling friction is 1/100th of sliding friction and it depends on hardness of surface. Sorry,ill be glad to get some details about it!

VincentLyon.Fr
 2 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0The first phase of the motion is sliding. It is not so straightforward to find the time it will last. The answer is \(\tau_1=\Large \frac {R\omega_0}{3\mu _kg}\) The remaining rotation velocity is \(\omega_1=\Large \frac {\omega_0}{3}\) Velocity of centre of mass is \(v_1=\Large \frac {R\omega_0}{3}\)
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