pooja195
  • pooja195
Recently iv'e been noticing that people have been copy and pasting answers from websites and they could if they want to but they don't cite where they got it from
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pooja195
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Recently iv'e been noticing that people have been copy and pasting answers from websites and they could if they want to but they don't cite where they got it from
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anonymous
  • anonymous
I don't understand what you are saying. What do you mean by " and they could if they want to but they don't"?
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
erm your question doesn't make sense whatsoever
pooja195
  • pooja195
geez sorry jus a mistake

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anonymous
  • anonymous
Okay. ☺
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
ya that happens anyways, close this question and make a new one :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
or she can just edit the question... @dumbsearch2
anonymous
  • anonymous
Oh, she did.
Opcode
  • Opcode
Just tell the user they aren't allowed to do that.
Opcode
  • Opcode
Seems like very little know what plagiarism is.
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
@opcode they don't care. MORE SS
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
Yes, I've noticed the same problem. I keep seeing users copy-pasting answers from like Wikianswers and Yahoo answers, without citing them, and then I catch them red-handed like YOU GOT IT FROM BLAH BLAH URL DON'T DO THAT AGAIN. Best I can do. I use to lack citing here, but some other users caught me time to time. They'res also a report button. Best we can do. as a community.
Opcode
  • Opcode
Well it breaks the CoC... If they do it multiple times just report them.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@pooja195 I know what you are talking about. It is really annoying. I tried calling a user out when they did it but they went crazy. Take a look: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/5140e12ae4b0f08cbdc9362b
pooja195
  • pooja195
@erdog82 thats exactly wat i mean
anonymous
  • anonymous
Sometimes you may just want to PM the asker of the question and let them know, as many sources online aren't very credible.
Opcode
  • Opcode
Something else people do is just give links. -_-
anonymous
  • anonymous
@pooja195 I know, it got me upset, especially because I did nothing wrong. Its annoying, but the world can't be perfect.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode I do that, and many people find it helpful... so there!!
Opcode
  • Opcode
It's not right tho...
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
Actually it would be possible programmatically to check if the answer was taken somewhere online and automatically do something. Blekko has a very nice free search API which could be used for this search data. You could detect if the result exists elsewhere online, and then give a warning not to do so while posting OR automatically cite them.
pooja195
  • pooja195
thats y there should be something done guys!!!
Opcode
  • Opcode
Meh. @dumbsearch2 wouldn't that use a lot of bandwidth?
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
I think my method would work best. There always will be a user who could care about the COC, or someone doesn't come across reporting them. OR not enough people report them.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode It is helpful, because we don't have to summarize it for them, and they are getting the answer themselves. It is right, if I needed help from a teacher or friend they might send me a link that would be helpful, I don't get what's wrong with it. I then would help them afterwards if needed, but a link is sometimes all someone needs. Whats wrong with it?
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
@opcode why would it. It's linking up to the free Blekko API they could get more calls, but I think it's fine.
pooja195
  • pooja195
REPORTING THEM DOSENT DO MUCH!!!@dumbsearch2 :)
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
exactly. I'm offering a solution.
Opcode
  • Opcode
@erdog82 Some people have NO knowledge on the topic at hand. So they "infer things" and just provide links, and when the question asker needs help the use just keeps giving links. Sometimes these links just make the topic more confusing.
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
"Actually it would be possible programmatically to check if the answer was taken somewhere online and automatically do something. Blekko has a very nice free search API which could be used for this search data. You could detect if the result exists elsewhere online, and then give a warning not to do so while posting OR automatically cite them." The admins could implement this. May take a little too much bandwidth, but it's food for thought.
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
@opcode Do you forgive me :3 I give LMGTFY links :}
Opcode
  • Opcode
Meh :P
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode Well, I personally don't do that very often. If I don't know much about a topic, I normally let them know, and then ask if they still want my help. I probably have done what you are talking about, but as a result, I learn about the topic myself. I normally read what I link to.
pooja195
  • pooja195
@dumbsearch2 yr rite but wen u warn them they get crazy like the link @erdog82 metioned
Opcode
  • Opcode
Well the point of OpenStudy is too learn :3 So it's a win win ^_^.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode If you are talking to me, then.. Yeah it is!!
anonymous
  • anonymous
@pooja195 Is right, and it is really annoying to deal with that type of person.
blues
  • blues
I agree. The mods do suspend for plagiarism. Sometimes we catch it. Sometimes other people notice and report it. Either way, results in some of the harsher suspensions I have seen given on this site. As for somewhat automating this process, I have brought it up with the dev team time and time again. Search services do exist. Randomly taking a string from each response and searching before posting would slow the site down for everyone even further - but I see no reason why this special treatment could not be applied selectively to people who have already been busted for plagiarising.
pooja195
  • pooja195
@blues when people report mods dont pay attention to it the next day u see the same person plagiarising
blues
  • blues
Hmm, that is no good at all. :( When you report, do you put "plagiarising" in the comment section?
pooja195
  • pooja195
yes
blues
  • blues
I am so sorry to hear that. Sort of the standard policy for plagiarising we catch is to suspend without warning for the first offense, usually giving the person a day of vacation, and then doubling the duration for every offense after that. Which is harsh, but we take plagiarism very seriously.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@pooja195 Do you have any examples of what you are talking about, like links? I am just wondering.. If you can't find any, its okay. ☺
blues
  • blues
I am sure she does - but I would rather not have links to specific users' posts up here in Feedback where the whole site can see if they broke the rules or not. Peoples privacy should be respected.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@blues.. she can delete the link afterwards.. I guess your right though.
blues
  • blues
Suffice it to say, I have seen enough posts taken entirely from other sources that I understand the very significant scope of this problem. :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
@blues Yeah, its sad.
blues
  • blues
I have seen so many that I wonder about maybe 20% of all posts made in certain groups. Which I check by searching in Google for exact matches. And in maybe 1/4 of the cases I do check, it turns out that the post was plagiarised. So in certain groups - not so much math, but groups like writing and history where responses come in essay form - perhaps 5% of all posts are copied and pasted. As a rough estimate.
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
blues is the cool mod 8-) And i'm serious ^_^
anonymous
  • anonymous
@blues wow. That is so sad.
pooja195
  • pooja195
:(
pooja195
  • pooja195
@erdog82 hers an example but then when i mentioned plagrism she cited it http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/515462f8e4b07077e0bf9c25
anonymous
  • anonymous
Well, that's great! She wasn't a jerk like the guy I had to deal with :)
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
LOl ? duh In fact, I know her. As a chatter on here. She was suspended, and this is the account she's using to avoid suspension. But anyways, it's true. She wasn't as much as a jerk, she cited it :P
anonymous
  • anonymous
Oh. That kinda stinks.
pooja195
  • pooja195
see this is y this needs more attention!
Opcode
  • Opcode
O_O You aren't supposed to avoid suspension.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode Honestly, so many people do.. it's really sad. Can you do something about it?
pooja195
  • pooja195
@Opcode many people do that just so they can repeat the same mistake
Opcode
  • Opcode
Well that's sad.
pooja195
  • pooja195
I'm going to make sure something happens :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Good!
pooja195
  • pooja195
:)
anonymous
  • anonymous
dumbsearch2
  • dumbsearch2
@Opcode LOL I always avoid suspensions.... ;) (don't judge me)

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