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*****CONTINUED**** We think it needs to. Hopefully this will help moderators crack down on plagiarism, which isn't okay, in any situation.
How many times will you guys post about same thing? I think its already discussed.
see it mentioned anywhere?
You think I'm gonna read the Coc? Never.
I know its not mentioned there.
@Opcode No offense, unless you get a reward for reading it, or if the part you are talking about is highlighted, underlined, circled, and in bold, no one is going to read the terms and conditions. Some do read it, but not many.
Tbh, I don't care. I think people should cut the crap, and quit giving out answers and plagiarizing. But, there isn't much you can do about it. And I don't think the mods care enough to change it.
Like I said, they don't care enough to be bothered to put it in.
Just live with it.
Ok.. I guess that ends my quest to end plagiarism. :( Well, I tried.
o.o Don't give up that easy...
@Opcode Then what can I do? No one really cares. Unless we have an OpenStudy petition, made by someone who can get lots of people to get interested in the topic, and to sign it, its not going to work.
Is anyone on board for the petition idea? :)
Even if it is in the CoC, how many website strictly adhere to and enforce that? Youtube clearly states that you cannot post videos that do not belong to you. But type in any song and I guarantee you will find at least one video that has been posted by someone other than the band and it is the music with lyrics in a power point scrolling on screen
You can't compare apple and oranges. YouTube = Entertainment. OpenStudy = Study site. (At lest it's supposed to be...)
I understand that the concept of the site is completely different, but they are the same in the concept that they are websites in which people from all over the world are free to express themselves viraly. The distinction between the two sites is that youtube does it through videos, and this is a website to help with homework and learning. But my point is that on a basic level the two websites are similar, and that the CoC us not followed or enforced regardless of what the website is
ok forget the coc but u think plagiarism should be tolerated???
@Opcode I understand that they are different species, but both the same family. @pooja195 Under no means should plagierism be tolerated, but on the other hand, how are you going to enforce that? Yea, it isnt right, but people are going to do what people are going to do. And in the grand scheme of things I dont think that it should be an enormous issue on this site simply based off the fact that there isnt anything being turned in here. People come for help (or unfortunately exact answers), and then use that learned knowledge on an assignement that is going to be turned in.
I believe the rules are enforced... People that step out of line are warned by moderators and admins.
but some people ignore warnings and when they get suspenede they create a new account
Eek! Don't tag purples o.o Anyway that has been brought up.
@pooja195 I have personally not run into this issue, but then again I have only been using this site for about a month. All I'm trying to say is that in the grand scheme of things, no one is really getting credit for an answer using this site. If someone gets a correct answer off of this site, and puts it on their homework, should they have to cite that answer to this site? No one is going to do that, it wouldnt make sense, yet it would fall under the same category as plagiarism being discussed right now. This site is to help people, and if people feel the need to plagiarise in order to help someone else learn, that is what is going to happen. @Opcode brings up a good point as well, if someone gets banned from the site for plagiarising, then makes a new account, then really what good is being done by creating the rule in the first place? While i dont agree with plagiarising, I believe that if someone is helped through an answer that has been plagiarised, then some good has been done, and this site has served its purpose
Not that it would be a hard thing to change the CoC (or i would imagine), I honestly just dont see the point. Yea maybe throw it in for show, but if at the end of the day if someone was helped by the site, i think it doesnt matter what the CoC, or rules or anything say. Some good has been done.
I realize it is a serious matter, I completely agree, but the sites that people are plagiarising are meant for learning, and the person answering with the plagiarised answer is just relaying that information from the source to the person. But just ask the person who is up til 4 am working on physics and cant understand the concept, ask them if it didnt do any good. Im sure theyll disagree
well then how come they dont just search it themselves plagerizing is copying and people rely on perfect work ask the person who got busted for a plagerized answer from OS by there teacher????
*their. and well that goes back to my other point, if people get an exact answer from OS, then why dont they cite in their homework? they wont do that, and that is a completely different issue because in the CoC it does state that exact answers should not be given, and that it should only be used to help the person get to the answer on their own.
OMG HOW MANY DAMN THREAD DO YOU NEED FOR THE DAMN THING NOTHING WE CAN DO. I OFFERED CODE FOR PREVENTING THIS PLAGIARISM, BUT I DOUBT THEY WLL IMPLEMENT IT. IDK. IT'S THEIR CHOICE. ALL WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY IS REPORT. CORRECT. OR ASK THE MODS. THOUGH TBH THEY DON'T DO HAVE OF THE WORK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, AND WE NEED MORE/ACTIVE MODS. gosh. close this damn thing.
Whats the point of this ._.? I'm pretty sure they know its not in the CoC....
Dil mai meray hai Dard e disco.
I'm sorry. But what can we do at this point. Excuse me getting mad, but I'm being serious. Medal-hounders, what's the point of making 55000000 threads about this ??? We can just do what we can do as a community. And the mods are lazy. Can we change that, right now ? And I suggested programtically a way of checking if the answers are plagiarized, so hope the admins will do that.
i kno rite
What is the point. The mods know that plagiarism is wrong. So what are you even discussing ?
@dave0616 Then why do they decide to keep this pointless post up T^T? They know what they are doing. You guys (People in general) aren't helping them do anything for the site.... Plagiarizing.... I mean really?
what is needed?
Well i thought this was a discussion board @pooja195, im discussing the issue with you and asking why it gets you so fired up. I reallly would like to know your motives behind this issue, because im sure youve gotten help from a plagiarised post if its happening as much as you say it is.
^ thats what im saying! haha
Dang. Close this. ._.
im sorry i didnt mean for this to get into a fight
stahp being a medal hounder and close dis dang thing
Its not a fight. Just getting this closed should be top priority
who is spamming @pooja195?, well thank you @erdog82, and pooja, please answer my question i really would like to know your motives behind this issue. And by the fact that you havnt answered that yet it makes "medal hounder" (dumbsearch92, second to last post), seem more and more obvious. note my cited quote....
I'm thinking you both gave each other medals...
guys we don't want medals this is getting out of hand we just wanted plagerizing to be mentioned in the COC
@dave0616 My motive is that I had a bad experience with a user because he cited an answer as his own, and when I called him on it, he started to go crazy and 'yell' at me. IN the past few weeks I have seen more and more of this, and I was surprised to see that it wasn't in the CoC. Is that good?
all im wating to know is how can your experience be that bad? Ok you called him out on it and he went crazy, thats the point you stop following the question. In the end you were helped and got your answer, so why does it matter where the answer really came from?
I should correct myself, why do you really care where the help with the answer came from,?
@dave0616 I was helping someone else. Plus, a lot of sources aren't reliable, including the one he was copying from. I wanted the asker to know. I believe conflicts like mine take away from OS as a whole, and adding it to the CoC will make us able to just say "its against the CoC" which we currently can't say, which may make people think its an okay thing to do, which it isnt.
honestly im bowing out because i have better things to do with my time than argue with some 15 year olds one this post. I hope you feel you've won, because this post has long since lost all the intrinsic value it once had. good day.
erdog are you an augument vampire ? low on blood ? this thread is long enoug. everuthing that had to be said was said. enough. close this damn thing.
and the mods have been tagged. they'll see it too. enough.
Okay. Thank you to everyone that voiced their opinion in this post. As many of you said, this is too long and is pointless now. To be honest, I had stepped away from my computer for 1-2 hours, not knowing this was going on. Though I wish this wouldn't have turned into a fight, life goes on. Hopefully something will happen as a result of this. I am sorry for letting this go too long. ~ @erdog82 The post will be closed soon.
O.K . As I went through this post I felt I must really point out somethings to my fellow users . First of all there is no point in posting the same topic twice .This topic has been brought to attention to the admins and mods and they suspend the user without warning for plagiarism . Next we dont want medal hounding to be rampant as @dumbsearch2 pointed out . The Smartscore system was infact introduced to reduce the medal hounding attitude of users as one of the main objectives . Now who said our mods are lazy ? o.O Please understand that they are normal people like us who have their own life apart from monitoring the site . Sometimes they might be busy even when they are shown online,that could result in them not taking immediate action for a report .This does NOT mean they are lazy !! I bet the addition of new set of mods have made a significant change favoring better monitoring of groups . Also be VERY CAREFUL when expressing your views so that the discussions dont turn into fights .Everyone has freedom to reply to a post ,stay in a post or disagree to statements but make sure you do it politely and in a friendly manner . The best thing to do is when you see someone copying other's work , REPORT them ! That will do the trick :)