amberjordan2006 Group Title . one year ago one year ago

1. Spacelimbus

$y^3+\cos(t)y'=2+y \sin(t)$is this the question?

2. Spacelimbus

does not look exact though without an integration factor.

3. Spacelimbus

$y^3-y \sin(t)-2+\cos(t)y'=0$

4. Spacelimbus

the y(0)=-1 is just an initial condition, the test for exactness is applied before that: $M_y=N_x$

5. Spacelimbus

Show that the differential equation (y^3)+cos(t)y'=2+ysin(t), y(0)=-1 is exact and solve the i.v.p - It is not exact to my understanding. So I (Or maybe the problem) fail at the first place.

6. Spacelimbus

Usually you continue from this with an integration factor, but it doesn't say that in the given problem.

7. Spacelimbus

I can have a look into it, but I believe that for this problem it will turn out to become rather hairy. Are you really sure that you copied the problem correct? I have a strange feeling about this. Not that I say that every problem is always to be correct, but the phrasing would make absolutely zero sense that way. On an exam for instance, you could show that the given DE was not exact and then drop it, because it's a contradiction to the given statement.

8. Spacelimbus

See, you forgot about some important paranthesis in your opening post, or I didn't quite understand them. $(y^3+\cos(t))y'=2+y \sin(t)$ not that is the same as: $-y \sin(t) -2 + (y^3+ \cos(t))y'=0$ and now you can indeed apply the test and see that this statement holds true: $M_y=N_t$ and thus it is exact.

9. Spacelimbus

They should be partial differentials, you're dealing with multivariable calculus (Differential Equations) here, the above emerges from the multivariable chain rule. Since it is exact you should: $f_t=-y \sin (t) -2$

10. Spacelimbus

not quite, and $f_y=(y^3+\cos(t))$

11. Spacelimbus

without the y'

12. Spacelimbus

yes, what will you get from that?

13. Spacelimbus

You're integrating with respect to dy, so you should get: $H(t,y)=\frac{ y^4 }{ 4 }+y \cos (t) +g(t)$

14. Spacelimbus

yeh you got it almost.

15. Spacelimbus

very good, but also check for the cos(t) term, it's just a constant, so you add a y infront of it.

16. Spacelimbus

yes because your dimension/direction of integration is dy, so t is constant.

17. Spacelimbus

yes, how would you continue?

18. Spacelimbus

Did you mean to integrate the above? Or differentiate again to figure out what g(t) is? There is more than one way to do that. - 1) You have H(t,y) now, but you're missing g(t), so you can partial differentiate H(t,y) with respect to t, you can set that equal to the already given given H_t - 2) You can integrate the second given partial DE and then match and compare coefficients to figure out g(x)

19. Spacelimbus

yes, integrate that.

20. Spacelimbus

almost it would give you ycos(t)-2t+g(y)

21. Spacelimbus

So now you have two equations which you can match: $H(y,t)=\frac{ y^4 }{ 4 }+y \cos(t) + g(t)$ and $H(y,t)=y \cos(t) -2t + g(y)$ So you can try to figure out maybe from there how to continue.

22. Spacelimbus

first you need to figure out your g(t) and g(y), g(t) is obviously a function that only depends on t, so you can see that g(t)=-2t and g(y) is a function that only depends on y, so g(y)=y^4/4 So your solution is: $H(t,y)=y \cos (t) -2t + \frac{ y^4 }{ 4 }+C$

23. Spacelimbus

yes you still need to find C, do that with your initial values.

24. Spacelimbus

I believe H(t,y(0))=-2t+C=-1

25. Spacelimbus

I think it's better to keep t as a function itself, unfortunately the above function cannot be expressed in an explicit form y(t)=... So I would just let the t remain there, because they aren't giving any additional infos about it.

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27. Spacelimbus

you're done

28. Spacelimbus

no there is only one constant of integration

29. Spacelimbus

you're welcome