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I know this is not math but whatever. If the mass is 1.16 and the volume is 8.5 what is the slope?
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ineedyouubiebs Group Title
I know this is not math but whatever. If the mass is 1.16 and the volume is 8.5 what is the slope?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
In my HW it says to find the slope it's (change in mass)/(change in volume)
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@Luigi0210 help please?
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Luigi0210 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Do you know the changes?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
What do you mean by that?
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Luigi0210 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Do you only have one set of values?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh no there's more. Want me to put them up?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Label 1) mass: 1.16 g volume:8.5 . Label 2) mass:0.98 volume: 7.2. Label 3) mass: 1.13 volume:10.0 . Label 4) mass: 0.69 volume: 6.2. Label 5) mass: 0.83 volume:6.0. Label 6) mass:1.45 volume: 12.9. Label 7) mass: 0.88 volume: 7.9. Label 8) mass: 1.03 volume: 7.5. Label 9) mass: 0.74 volume: 5.4. Label 10) mass: 1.02 volume: 7.5
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Sorry I couldn't lined them up well I'm on my iPad right now
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah?
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Luigi0210 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I got nothing, sorry
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what happens if you treat the mass as the x coordinate and the volume as the y coordinate?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
But that'll mean graphing all 10 of them
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ya working on ti
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@dumbcow @dan815 got any ideas how to do this?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@Luigi0210 don't worry(:
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@zepdrix ?
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
tryin to find a website the will plot all the points
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Okay thanks
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
kant, use this site, it's quite good :) https://www.desmos.com/calculator
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
looks like the slopes are about the same for a series of points...not sure what the question is looking for
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
thanks zepdrix i'll check that site too...the one i found called http://openstudy.com/study#
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'm missing clone wars for this!
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@kantalope lol my bad and how does this help me find what I'm looking for?
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
typically when you are looking for slope you are looking for the change in whatever based on the change in the other thing.....these changes aren't a straight line. what else does the question have?
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ⒶArchie☁✪ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.4
it is a bit confusing that a slope can be asked when mass and volume are given. However, if the slope is meant to mean density, then I will say the slope= mass/volume.
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
if the data has a function we can find the variable slope based on the derivative of the function
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
heh  I'll bet I'm supposed to be able to figure out this kind of problem at the end of the semester not the beginning...and the martini I just finished in not helping...
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'm rearranging the data on the graph...
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
http://mcpchemistry1.wikispaces.com/file/view/HW4%20%20Density%20Graph%20Practice%20201314.doc/447730728/HW4%20%20Density%20Graph%20Practice%20201314.doc here is my HW, the question is on the last page
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The points are all squirrely so a serious person would do some stat regression to find the mean
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ah ha...which is exactly what the graph was finding
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think your looking at the wrong page, it's the very last one
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
right so my pictures were plots of the data that we were given...it is all wonky
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If we were measuring stuff that had a consistent mass to volume ratio the line would be nice and straight....the more stuff we had the more it would weigh yea?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah it is all "wonky" ughhh this is irritating
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
that's ok that is how real data works
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah, I know what your saying
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
You sure I'm not just suppose to divide or subtract?
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so our data is sloppy could mean a couple of things like the hint suggests  maybe some of the chunks we are looking at are real rocks and some are plastic fake rocks
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Their metals
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
nah if you were serious about this data you would plot it out like we did and look if it was in straight lines...if it was not you would do a process called regression to find the average slope between the plot points
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
right so some of metal is real and some of it isn't or some of the metal is a different kind or you could just be kinda sloppy in measuring the volume or the mass...rounding up sometimes and rounding down others or if you have different people doing the measuring the data will get screwy
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Becauseatfirst I taught I was only suppose to divide and ill get the answer, but apparerently not
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So for the last page you can paste in the plots in the pictures and a hypothesis is that the measurements are not consistent and that there seems to be two different trend lines in the data so there are probably two different kinds of metal in the sample with two densities regression wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_squares
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If you did just divide each set of points to get a series of numbers....I'll bet you get two sets of answers...lemme check that
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Okay(:
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
actually turns out that there are more like 3 sets of ratios  .14 is the answer to 3 samples .111 to three and .138 to three more < this also points to something funny with the data if the ration of volume to mass was the same all the samples would have basically the same well ratio ya so just dividing would show something but the graph makes it easier to see
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mary.rojas Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Can you explain in a different way, she cant understand
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If the samples were consistent  all made of the same stuff  if you had more stuff it would weigh more....a big gold coin has more mass (weighs more) than a small gold coin...and that change in size and mass would be consistent. A coin that is twice as big would weigh twice as much....does that make sense?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yes, I do understand that thAt was one of the questions lol
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so if i started handing you coins that were twice as big but didn't weigh twice as much ...you would say "dood, you are rippin me off, these are not gold coins" that is what the first graph is showing ....there are four coins in the top line with a certain volume to weight ratio (slope) and then 6 coins in another line with a different volume to weight ratio(slope)
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Somehow I think I'm just suppose to divide, and I'm just complicating myself!
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
well number 2 on the second to last page says graph it....so there is that
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah and I already graphed it
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and the graph show some dots that make a line and some other dots that make a different line?
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah they do
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so the last question says to calculate the slope of each of those lines m= (y1y0) / (x1x0) if you pick any two points on the two lines you can get the slope
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Can you do the first one as an example? Please
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ok top line the first point is (.69, 6.2) and another point on that line looks like (1.45, 12.9) would you agree?
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
y1= 12.9 y0 = 6.2 x1= 1.45 x0 = .69 6.7/.76 = 8.82
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
No it's suppose to be 1.16 and 8.5
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
the points on the other line are (0.74,5.4), ( 0.83,6.0), ( 0.98, 7.2), ( 1.02 ,7.5), ( 1.03, 7.5), (1.16,8.5) you can use any of those points to calculate the slope of the second line
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I started with the top line....that point is on the lower line...you can go with whatever one first
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
So I'll divide it like 1.16/8.5 correct?
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
not if you want to calculate the slope like the last question asks...dividing will just get you the ratio not the slope...
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I made the graph bigger so it is easier to see the two different lines....we are looking for the slope of those two lines I think that the instructions are confusing as they ask for the change in mass over the change in volume....simply dividing is not the change....it is just the mass over the volume...in order to get the change part you have to do the y1y0 thing
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I hope that means you are going ...ah, I get it rather than ah @$%$ it =)
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Ahhhh crap? Lol I think I'm complicating it more that I should that's why , but that's all
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kantalope Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
k gl im out its really late here
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ineedyouubiebs Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah get some sleep goodnight
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