## Study23 Group Title Vector Construction help! I've been stuck on this for some time, not sure what to do! Construct c = a + b by drawing and calculating the direction and magnitude of c. The direction should be measured from the +axis. // See illustration below. one year ago one year ago

1. Study23

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2. dav21

to add 2 vectors you need to connect them tip to end

3. Study23

Okay, I got that part but was confused where to go from there

4. dav21

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5. Study23

Where do I go from there????

6. ganeshie8

drawing part of the question is over, next calculate mag and direction of a+b

7. Study23

That's the part where I'm stuck!

8. Study23

The mag would be found using pythagorean theorem right?

9. ganeshie8

to add vectors, u need to break them into components

10. dav21

11. Study23

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12. dav21

break vector into x component and y components then add x components and add y components

13. ganeshie8

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14. ganeshie8

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15. Study23

Oh okay! So from there, I would use the pythagorean theorem, and for the direction, I would...?

16. dav21

why pythagorean theorem

17. ganeshie8

first find the components of a+b

18. Study23

for the magnitude

19. ganeshie8

x component of a+b = 4.5cos(60) - 8cos(45) y component of a+b = 4.5sin(60) + 8sin(45)

20. ganeshie8

ringt ?

21. ganeshie8

y components are in same direction, so u add them x components are in opposite directions, so u subtract them

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How do I know what to subtract from what?

23. ganeshie8

number line :)

24. ganeshie8

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25. ganeshie8

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26. ganeshie8

we follow that, if ur components are in that direction, they're +ve if they're in opposite, they're -ve

27. Study23

Okay!

28. ganeshie8

x component of a+b = 4.5cos(60) - 8cos(45) y component of a+b = 4.5sin(60) + 8sin(45)

29. ganeshie8

once you have the x and y components for c, to get direction just use the samne formula, $$\theta = \large \tan^{-1} \frac{y}{x}$$

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31. ganeshie8

mag also same formula :- $$\large \sqrt{x^2+y^2}$$

32. ganeshie8

a+b is just a vector, so u can use same formulas

33. Study23

That makes as a lot more sense, thank you so much!

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(again!)

35. ganeshie8

np :D

36. Study23

@ganeshie8 I get 25 degrees for angle?

37. Study23

@ganeshie8 ?

38. ganeshie8

looks wrong

39. ganeshie8

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40. ganeshie8

check ur calculation again :)

41. ganeshie8

wolfram says below :- http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arctan%28%284.5sin%2860%29+%2B+8sin%2845%29%29%2F+%284.5cos%2860%29+-+8cos%2845%29%29%29 add 180 to it, to get into 2nd quadrant maybe

42. Study23

ok

43. Study23

@ganeshie8 What about if the vectors are being substracted then what do you do with the components for a and b? Is it the same like: we follow that, if ur components are in that direction, they're +ve if they're in opposite, they're -ve

44. Study23

The magnitudes is what I'm having trouble with. When I use the formula, I get a decimal answer?

45. ganeshie8

yup !

46. ganeshie8

for mag just take sqrt(x^2+y^2)

47. ganeshie8