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aef321
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how do i find the limit as an goes to infinity of the following? (the equation's in the comments)
 8 months ago
 8 months ago
aef321 Group Title
how do i find the limit as an goes to infinity of the following? (the equation's in the comments)
 8 months ago
 8 months ago

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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\frac{ 4 }{ n }\sum_{a=1}^{n}((\frac{ 4a }{ n })^{2} 4(\frac{ 4a }{ n }))\] This is the equation in question
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\frac{ 4 }{ n }\sum_{a=1}^{n}((\frac{ 4a }{ n })^{2})  \frac{ 4 }{ n }\sum_{a=1}^{n}(4(\frac{ 4a }{ n}))\]
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
we're not sure where to go from here
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
looks like you are trying to compute some sort or reimann sum
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
exactly. a right riemann sum of x^2 4x to be exact.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
don't let the \(n\) through you off in the summation you are summing over \(a\) (never seen an \(a\) used like that before, but no matter) pull it right out front of the sum then use the formula for \[\sum_{a=1}^na^2\] and also \[\sum_{a=1}^na\]
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tkhunny Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
After a little algebra. \(\dfrac{16}{n^{2}}\left[\dfrac{1}{n}\sum\limits_{a=1}^{n}a^{2} + \sum\limits_{a=1}^{n}a\right]\)
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primeralph Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@satellite73 Got this?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
\[\frac{ 4 }{ n }\sum_{a=1}^{n}((\frac{ 4a }{ n })^{2})\] \[=\frac{64}{n^3}\sum_{a=1}^na^2\] for example @primeralph maybe, i am tired and all this latex is wearing me out
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@tkhunny i think the \(4\) is being squared as well
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tkhunny Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Whoops. Make that 64, instead of 16.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
not really sure the sum is correct, but assuming it is for the moment \[\frac{64}{n^3}\sum_{k=1}^nk^2=\frac{64}{n^3}\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6}\] for the first one
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Wait but how does this help us get the limit as n > infinity?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
taking the limit as \(n\to \infty\) is very easy because the numerator is a polynomial of degree 3 will leading coefficient 128 and the denominator is a polynomial of degree 3 with leading coefficent 6
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
as you remember from some pre calc course about "horizontal asymptotes" that makes the limit \(\frac{128}{6}\)
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh oops duh that makes sense.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
easy if you think about it that way instead of the way they do it in the text by dividing top and bottom by \(n^3\) and all that other nonsense
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aef321 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@satellite73 where did 128 come from?
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
sorry probably a dumb question but...
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alffer1 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh waitn.....nevermind
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