anonymous
  • anonymous
What do you think of faith and works? Do you need faith or works to be saved?
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anonymous
  • anonymous
@danielh1231 Lets take a look at James 2 : 17 - 18 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Basically this verse in the New Testament says that Faith without Works is dead. *This scripture is found in the 1611 Version of the King James Version of the Bible.
Opcode
  • Opcode
Well since no one has I guess I will comment for Islam. Both faith and hard work is needed, there is a surah that mentions how hard you word in this life, is how much you will be rewarded in the afterlife. I'd also comment for Judaism though I haven't read the Torah in Hebrew, since I don't know Hebrew. Sorry :-P.
anonymous
  • anonymous
No you don't need faith you need logic. Dose faith feed you... It's rational thinking and not some idea of a person to save you.

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anonymous
  • anonymous
The only thing people need saved from is this idea of religion that has no point.
Opcode
  • Opcode
@KingCollins You have a few issues with your statement, then again if you reuse the same arguments created by others they will not work. You seem to think that religion has something to do with feeding yourself, when it really has no holds to that, neither does logic or rational thinking. 1: Logically fallacy. "Dose faith feed you... It's rational thinking and not some idea of a person to save you." You try to tie feeding yourself to faith, then apply the argument that rational thinking has something to do with feeding yourself. You somewhat fail here, "correlation does not imply causation" to be more blunt, if you take time to learn biology, feeding yourself is a survival instinct, naturally embedded into our bodies. It has nothing to do with rational or logical thinking. 1: Deeper into the brain. "The only thing people need saved from is this idea of religion that has no point." You are certainly narrow-minded and are unable to think logically, "Religions are, for the most part, bad—but religion is not." - Kurt Gödel. Whether you believe it or not, religion enforces good behaviour (as long as it isn't taken to the extreme point such as terrorism). Without the religion the world would have been long gone, probably with raging with total chaos. Yet you simply state, "religion has no point." You lack so much evidence to support any of your statements.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Opcode uneducated atheists spew nothing but snot I cannot fathom why collins even replied to this do not ever listen to an atheist wanna be or let one person determine your view of the movement I'm an atheist myself so if you want an educated person to talk to just ask
Opcode
  • Opcode
No worries? I have plenty of friends that have different views of religion and the world, I try to keep an open mind too :-).
anonymous
  • anonymous
faith - yes! works- no!
ElisaNeedsHelp
  • ElisaNeedsHelp
Faith is much more valuable than just works. God wants to know that you believe and what is in your heart first.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@WeepingAngel123, @ElisaNeedsHelp Why do you say that faith is more valuable than works? James 2 : 17 - 18 is a prime example where the bible says otherwise...
anonymous
  • anonymous
everyone does good things in their life. does this mean that they are all saved?
Opcode
  • Opcode
Not exactly, some crimes are worse than others. According to Islam and the Qur'an no human is able to cast judgement on another, as that is for God to say. I assume the same with Christianity, God is the final judgement. Since we are not God we cannot assume judgement on others.

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