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\[\textbf{Could the Barnum effect explain what I think are my prayers answered?}\] I have been studying psychology and I recently learned about the Barnum effect, I think it applies to some of what people call miracles, what do you think? Do you think the Barnum effect could be how your prayers are answered? What do you normally pray for? Have you experienced a miracle? (Explain if you answered yes.) Have you prayed or asked god for something very specific and gotten what you asked or prayed for? (Explain if you answered yes.)

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this is such a materialistic question.
How so?
It all goes back to where Lucifer and his angels were cast out of heaven.

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Um, do you know what I am talking about? I'm suggesting that what people care miracles are actually an result of the Barnum effect. Can you refute my claim with evidence?
I gave a bum 5 dollars and I found 20 dollars is that a miracle whip c;
Did he pray for the 20 dollars though?
Yes you sewed 5 dollars and in return god gave you 20.
lmfao, I think so @Opcode
I didn't sew anything o-o
you Reap what you sew
http://www.miraclesofthechurch.com/
mmkay, I don't understand your talk so....idk what you mean by sewing o-o
you gave an offering and God reworded you
Generally five dollars a homeless person wouldn't waste it on miracle whip though. With fiver dollars you can normally buy some food and an item of clothing. (If you are wise of-course.) Okay guys, please keep the question in its original topic. (You can find the format and answer the questions at the top.) @Orwell84 answer my questions.
"reworded"
o-o wut
rewarded*
Yeah opcode I never heard of the Barnum effect.
google
I would have heard about it by now.
@Orwell84 Read up: https://www.google.com/search?q=Define%20Barnum%20effect
Horoscopes?
When you pray for something and God answers your prayer it is a miracle. - there is no such thing as God only gives you limited amount of gifts, he loves you show much that he gave you his beloved son. He answers your prayers in away sometimes we don't seem to see it. Everyday you should recognize it's a miracle your still living. You can ask Him for things and if it's for the greater good he will give it to you. He loves you so much that he wants to make you happy.
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Bar·num ef·fect nounPSYCHOLOGY 1. the tendency to accept certain information as true, such as character assessments or horoscopes, even when the information is so vague as to be worthless.
There are no such thing as miracles
Yes
An answer to prayer is not a miracle it is favor from God, and if you pray for something and it doesn't happen you were ether living in sin or what you had prayed for is not part of Gods plan in your life or in the world.
I would tend to disagree with you Orwell.
same
I believe in miracles
Who Hated Jesus first?
If their wasn't a such thing as miracle how do you think people get healed from cancer...
miracles*
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012562
we hated Jesus first.
The world
\[\small \text{I pray to god for me to find a penny} \implies \text{I found a penny, so god granted me a miracle.}\] \[\small \text{I pray to god for me to become rich over night} \implies \text{I don't maybe because I was too specific.}\] What people pray for is normally common and when it happens they think they have been granted a miracle. I think the Barnum effect maybe a logical explanation for why people think they have been given a miracle. Barnum effect generally states that people believe things that they are told because what they are told is a generally and applies to nearly all people. Since we pray for general things, maybe we are being fooled by the Barnum effect.
Tf are you talking about "the world" go back to school dude
http://www.ainglkiss.com/miracles/mir.htm
I like to believe that there is someone looking after us. Performing miracles, guarding us, and such. Religion is something nice to believe in, especially how they describe "paradise". But then there are people like @Orwell84 who try to prove other religions wrong like its some sort of competition. This is what is wrong with religion now. Their stupid pride. Remember that religion is based on faith, which is what i believe you are looking for. God works in mysterious way, so it may take a while for you to find what you are looking for, but im positive you will get an answer. Patience is key <3
:') thats my boy
Guys, my questions where: ``` Do you think the Barnum effect could be how your prayers are answered? What do you normally pray for? Have you experienced a miracle? (Explain if you answered yes.) Have you prayed or asked god for something very specific and gotten what you asked or prayed for? (Explain if you answered yes.) ``` Can anyone answer them?
Sure
People usually pray for someone in their family that's dying or sick
Exactly that is the issue, people only pray to God when something in there life goes wrong.
That's not true dude..
You know dang well what im trying to say orwell, stop being sarcasting.
You can pray to live another day >.> Stahp acting like you know everything
Anyways @Opcode can you explain the Barnum effect to me? Or anyone?
I was not at all being sarcastic, it was a serious statement.
it wasn't a statement..it was an assumption
It was absolutely not an assumption.
Sorry orwell i misread your sentence, my bad
it was... how do you know what people pray for
@Squirrels Barnum effect isn't the direct question at had, but I think the general "same" thing is happing. Most prayers are asking for something simple and non-specific things. Could it be that what most people believe are miracles are simple generally things that they could do without prayer, but because they prayed they believe it is a miracle? Barnum effect applies to fortune telling, such you ask a fortune teller will it rain tomorrow since the question is general the fortune teller can pretend to use this knowledge of tomorrow's weather to "predict" your future.
When was the last time you prayed to God just to thank him for your life?
Why should I? I never asked to be born.
Recently, Why do you care
Because joy comes from thankfulness
You need read the bible. Obviously you know nothing
But I agree with Orwell for once, when something wrong goes in your life. dont pray to god just for that reason. pray to him to thank him for your blessings. cause it just not right
Would you thank your parents for bringing you into the world?
Nope, because I didn't ask to be here
So you are not grateful for your life?
I didn't say I wasn't
its kinda like talking to your mother just to ask money
Than who would you thank?
ask for*
I don't have to answer that question
No you don't
It's obvious... everyone knows the answer to that
What is the answer then?
You tell me
lol wat
God, you would thank God and he would bless you for your gratefulness.
Yep, Exactly
and the blessing would be joy
Mmmhm
Why would you ask me if you knew the answer o-o
In my life i've experienced many miracles and they aren't just coincidence- we took a trip down to Florida and were staying at a mission house- my family and I. I was in one of the rooms packing with my dad when he was checking his bank account to see if we had enough money- I heard him and he started crying. We had been over drawn $85 dollar and we lived over 8 hours away and needed to pay our night at the mission house. And not to mention our house was in foreclosure and we only had a few weeks until we were going to be kicked out of our house back at home. We were poor and we had no idea what was going to happen next. I quickly ran out of the mission house and ran straight to the adoration chapel there where (Jesus - the Eucharist- was in the in the tablenacel ) I cried on my knees bagging God the father to help us. To have mercy on us and to find away for us to help us in our desperate need. - now God already knows what we need but how much it pleases Him when we run to Him in prayer.- So after my time prayer I went back inside the mission house and my family was having the longest conversation with the man who ran the mission house. I was listening on their conversation it was normal but then out no where he explains to us that he had all this money and he didn't know what to do with it. Before my dad could ever tell him that we had no money to pay him for our stay he decided to give us his money he had extra and it saved our house and the gas money, food etc. Once I heard what happened--- I ran to the chapel in tears on my knees I wept in joy, praising the Lord for His blessings and miracles! What Glory He has shed down upon us!!! - I have seen many miracles in my life including my grandmother being healed of her diabetes and myself from an ear problem I had suffered for more than ten years and I was cured. I pray every single day thank Him for the blessings and I praise Him constantly - knowing that He is the one that put me on this earth today. I Pray every single day. Not a day goes by when i don't. Now this is just my religion and my beautiful relationship with my God the father. It doesn't mean other religions are wrong. And it doesn't mean I'm right- it means this is me. :) and one day you'll find yours too. I wish I could say more miracles but It take forever I written enough lol :P thank you for reading!
I didn't think you knew the answer.
I'm not reading your entire life story linda.
Well.. That's making assumptions.
I didn't assume
You should have just said the answer instead of asking me though... Plain and simple
Linda that was heart warming. <3 and Orwell stop being such a negative person. Being someone like that will get everyone to be against you such as now. Im assuming you dont care and thats fine, but later in life, if there is no one with you in the end, you'll know why. And as you read this you are probably thinking you dont need anyone but god. (just assuming) but i know god doesnt want you to treat someone like that
@Orwell84 then don't insult my religion. thank you.
Exactly
I am not at all a negative person.
Yes you are
Right now you are being more negative than anyone one here
Have we met somewhere before? Because I'm not sure I know any of you people.
How am I being negative?
well you certainly pop out of no where in the chatpod. "talking to us"
^^^
and when linda tried to tell a story about her miracle, you told her "I'm not reading your entire life story linda."
No one wasn't talking to you...when someone talks about religion you join in
Agreed
what?
Only that subject though
I need to be invited into a conversation on an internet chat board?
no but you jumped in our conversation, did you not?
No, but when someone talk about religion you join in and talk negative... No one wants to be around your immaturity
Yes and it was about homosexuality, it wasn't me that started the whole religious debate.
You calling me immature in that condescending way, it's really immature of you.
but you still jumped in our conversation about religion, no?
You're very immature
No people were talking about how homosexuality is bad, a made a joke.
Linda was explaining something about her miracle then you rudely said "I'm not reading your intire life story, linda." She didn't say "Orwell read my life story" That's immature of you....
entire*
@Orwell let me brighten you up on the many times you were being rudely negative towards me and my belief- Orwell84: Your entire doctrine was created by pagans who hated Christ. Orwell84: No linda, the Catholic church is where the people go to die. Orwell84: The Roman Catholic Church is deeply pagan. Orwell84: Linda you will be blind till the day you die. Orwell84: Vatican city is cult central and this isn't including hat you said about everyone else' religion. ~ if I may remind you that this is against the CoC of OpenStudy. Why don't you take the time to read it? - http://openstudy.com/code-of-conduct
Boom, read that
thank you linda, btw orwell that proves that you jumped in our conversation
Exactly
I shouldn't have to keep defending myself but there 5 different people all asking me questions at one time.
No one isn't asking you questions, we're making statements on how you're acting immature and being rude.. Well you're not acting I think you are immature and rude
Ok, answer my question first orwell
Im sure you know my question already, i wont repeat myself
"Linda you will be blind till the day you die." Was the only thing that I said which was negative, everything else was true. I expected someone to ask me about it in a rational manner.
Not true,
And you religion destroys people's souls.
How exactly do you know thats true?
proof?
wow
Because the Romans were pagans.
proof?
It isn't true! it's insulting my religion. And that there is very insulting towards me I would really appreciate it of you stop bashing on my religion.
The Catholic Church isn't Romans I thought you already said you knew that!
He is full of lies
look I'm sorry but I'm done with this- @e.mccormick this isn't going out smoothly I think we can close this question- it is going off topic.
heres the thing orwell, instead of wasting my time, i going to say you have absolute no proof. i cant question your beliefs and neither can you. Because you have no idea if what you are saying is right. That is all based on faith. Faith is not proof. Even thought faith is something nice to have, you cannot question other peoples religion, only god.
Cant close it since no one has answered @Opcodes question :p
After Christ went to the cross many people left paganism to follow the teachings of Christ. After years of murdering and enslaving Christians Emperor Constantine decided instead to merge traditional spiritual beliefs with the teaching of Christ.
where is you're proof squirrels?
There is only one religion, and one way to live.
How many of you will allow you're doctor to put an RFID chip into your arm?
You're so wrong in so many ways. ^
Everyone has there own personal opinion, I get that, but when it is all said and done there is only one way.
And your spirit knows, the problem is many people would rather listen to there flesh.
@Squirrels I answered @Opcode question... ._. in my very long reply...
Erm, nope.
Why?
Are you done being a moron yet?
um ...
I am immature.
Agreed
You see orwell, thats what im saying, i dont have proof, you dont have proof, no one has proof, except god and his disciples. you cant say there is only one religion you cant say @linda3 religions is false because you honestly have no idea, no "PROOF". THIS IS ALL BASED ON FAITH, QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW FOR A FACT AS IF YOU SEEN THE CRUCIFIXION OF CHRIST, LIKE YOU KNOW HIM PERSONALLY, ya dig?
true....very true
Op ;) I \(\ might \) tell you a secwet later :>
I do have proof it's only, I would have to wright a book. I can say all kinds of stuff but truthfully if you read the bible and especially open your eyes to how very bod the world is going down hill anyone could understand, and it's easy to just look.
And there really is only one religion.
Are you finished yet
Who is the author of the bible?
No there isn't. Proof being I don't believe in any.
God
Through man
ok, has anyone seen god in this world?
Men of God.
People that really served him according to the scripture.
or atleast is there any evidence
No man has ever seen God.
exactly
do you mean to say Jesus' disciples?
its faith brother
But that is not the point squirrels
yes linda, my bad
that is the point
There are many thing you are not talking into account which you don't even know exist.
taking*
learn how to spell you jerk
like?
Jess if you don't like it you can leave this board.
The occult
You could do the same. But you decided to stay and argue
The power behind international centralized banking.
okay goodnight folks. Squirrels is my new best friend- Jess she always has been my best bud. and @Orwell84 May God bless you all the days of your life.
Corporatism
and what is that called when you complete trust or confidence in someone or something
goodnight linda <3
Understanding
Goodnight, Linda. Sleep well. <3
its called faith you fool
And you can't be a Christian and believe and participate in Occult, they are complete opposites.
faith = no evidence
o-o
agreed
The pope worship Lucifer directly as God.
it's called Faith.
omg this guy
ikr
where does he get such information?
Okay that is insulting!!!! The pope did not worship Lucifer.
His parents might be telling him the wrong info
In a house of God do you really think the all might creator of all the universe would allow his people to molest a child?
people have their own minds sicko
All of the popes worshiped all kinds of Gods
where did you hear this orwell
https://www.google.com/search?q=Child+sex+in+the+Catholic+Church&oq=Child+sex+in+the+Catholic+Church&aqs=chrome..69i57.7749j0j9&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
What in the world? Do you really think you are not a sinner? Aren't we all sinners? - and that is not true @Orwell84 you can't believe everything you find on the internet! gosh!!! your making me upset.
^^
What you just said makes not point to mine.
@ linda
fail
no* point to mine
Just b/c one catholic sins does not mean The whole Catholic Church is bad.
she said dont believe everything on the internet as well
If you are a follower of Christ you would rather cut out your own eyes than look lustfully at a child.
"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
If the spirit of the lord is in you your spirit is repulsed by even the thought of sin.
This thread does not stay consistent on the main topic nor answers any of the ideas I posted. Please \(\textbf{do not reply}\) to this thread as it is now \(\textbf{closed}.\)
does that bring back any memories into your thick skull?
ok opcode, have a good day
I never said I am sinless, my point was if you have the spirit of Jesus in you you are not going to molest a child that is as black a thought as the devil himself.
@orwell we are all not perfect it is satin that does this. And sin does not difined who we are nor neither does it defined My Catholic Church. Tell me @orwell when was the last time you've sinned? And after you answered that question to yourself- why did you not cut out your own eye? Now knowing that does that sin define you- no it doesn't.
that quote was directly to the pope orwell
thank you @Opcode
STOP REPLYING ORWELL THE THREAD IS CLOSED
^GOOD NIGHT !
Yes it is satan that provokes us to sin, but satan is defeated, at the cross.
All power is now in Christ and everything must flee from anything of the lord.
jesus christ
Please the thread is closed, no more replies. Thank you.
ok... no more replys... will... do... #CrudiAlreadyFailed!xD
okay

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