anonymous
  • anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&feature=kp
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Somy
  • Somy
uh how lie... thats only his understanding it's not even true.
anonymous
  • anonymous
What isn't true about it?
Somy
  • Somy
some of the things he says is only his understanding/opinion

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anonymous
  • anonymous
since when could an opinion be a lie or not true?
Somy
  • Somy
i did not say 'opinion' was lie some stuff he said were not true
Somy
  • Somy
check the comments below the vid you'll see it.
anonymous
  • anonymous
then what about it wasnt true?
Somy
  • Somy
well im muslim so here it'd be my opinion Jesus is not Son of God he is just a Prophet he never said that he hates religion
anonymous
  • anonymous
If Jesus is as the Bible describes him, then uh Jesus did not want to abolish religion... I don't hate all religions, but I kinda hate biblical Jesus he acts like a douche. Seriously.
Somy
  • Somy
idk about bible but in Quran the story about Jesus is different kinda
KenLJW
  • KenLJW
I didn't watch video but when I read the Koran I remember reading "Jesus was just a prophet", hence Islam believes he was a prophet but did not attribute any divinity to him. Personal when I read it I thought "no one is just anything" and what one is or becomes is dependent on the Divine.
Opcode
  • Opcode
I do not remember a verse saying Jesus was just a prophet, however I do recall the Qur'an saying God has \(\textbf{no}\) son. [Qur'an 19:35] However I agree with you, "no one is just anything" it is all dependent on God. ``` Arabic: كن فيكون Transliteration: Kun fa-yakūnu Translation: Be, and it is. ``` The feeling I experience when I read those words is odd, I feel so close to God, yet completely minuscule to Him. Anyway, less of how I "feel" and more with examination of Islamic text. Islam does not agree with many things about Jesus with Christianity. Major three are: 1. We reject the notion of the trinity. 2. Jesus did not die for us, in Islam a man cannot die for another man's sins, alike with Judaism. 3. Jesus is still alive. (He ascended to heaven, still alive. Islam believes in the second coming of Jesus.) By the way, Jesus is called Isa in Islam. Interesting stuff about Allah (swt): The Islamic concept of God is unlike Christianity as well, we hold a strict monotheism. Tahweed is unlike the trinity it enforces that God is unique, that there is no like Him. He has not a son or wife, He is self-sustaining, He is one. Now of biblical Jesus being a douche, I disagree. He enforced good founding morals, for \(\textbf{that time period}\). Note: I did not watch the video (lack of time), but I take that it says Jesus came to abolish religion. In which case is utter malarkey. Jesus came as a man of humility, humbleness to God, in order to guide mankind back to the natural religion. (At least that is how Islam portrays him, from what I read in the bible, it is nearly the same except, God sent Jesus his son to save us.)
KenLJW
  • KenLJW
I do not use any "name" for God, Elohim, Jehovah, Allah, ect, but use the name of God being scriptures, as no gods before me. The same for Christ, I find that scriptures tell me what I'm to do not what "God or Christ" to do. My views are unorthodox and only require my Lords acceptance, in the U.S. you have freedom of religion but that doesn't mean the Divine actually accepts them. My view is the Divine is not democratic but does what's good for mankind regardless of their objections, generally man wants to be in control which they may be up to a point but ultimately not.
anonymous
  • anonymous
Really late but @Opcode one false statement in the disagreences. I'm not sure if where you're from practices it but christianity where i'm from does explain and say how Jesus is still alive. I infact had encountered problems currently that drug me away from christ but i'll still remember my preacher saying that I must realize Jesus died for my sins and is still alive in heaven and will return again. The rest I don't see is wrong though being i haven't studied Islam
anonymous
  • anonymous
@KlOwNlOvE Jesus died on the cross, if you accept this statement as true then Jesus is not alive in any physical sense. Perhaps you mean spiritually however that is not what @Opcode argues.
KenLJW
  • KenLJW
The tenet in most Christianity is "Christ physically died" and then was "physically resurrected" and then ascended into heaven. This was the final canon of the Church, of course other views existed at the time.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@Algorithmic I believe he did as a past atheist as well he died and rose from the dead as he promised to his disciples and went to makee room in his kingdom for everyone he's alive if you allow him but dead if you believe he is it's a free will kind of thing He will deny you if you deny him but will help you if you believe in him
anonymous
  • anonymous
@KlOwNlOvE to what relevance of what you typed tells me anything? @Opcode argued that Islam holds the notion Jesus never died, on the cross, I merely supported that. With the greeting of denied and get denied makes no sense to me. @KenLJW while Christianity does have that view, it also has notations that make it more complex. In Christianity, from the sects I have been exposed to argue more of a complex chain of Jesus' ascension to heaven. When Jesus was resurrected see Luke 24:36-43, his body was normal. In contrast Jesus' ascended body appears to be quite different seen in Revelations 1:12-18. From my understanding, of this, and from reading St. Thomas’s viewpoint, Jesus' had a second pseudo death type situation. So Jesus' mortal physical body was not ascended to heaven, but a more of a spiritual (while physical) body was ascended. Of course as you said there are other views.

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