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I've seen some helpers just left them helpless as "punishment." Or at least just avoid them. I've also seen helpers who tried to START guide them. Often they just stop midway. I've also seen helpers just throw in whole explanations, included answer itself. After "helping" these users, sometime I tell myself "You can do better than that." or "That's not good way to help..." But exactly what's best way to HELP such kind of users? It's basically like trying to feed toddlers some green vegetables they hate.
It's little heartbroken to see that many of students consider having someone doing their work is considered "help." while it's actually more of a "service."
I agree with this. You ask them what you feel the answer is? If they are aggressive or don't cooperate. Just simply wait until they show a foundation of what they understand. If they don't then go over it. Then doesn't work, find a educational site that better explains it. Today, @geerky42 saw what you meant while we were answering a question.
Some could disguise it as a challenge or say it's a written assignment before we actually answer it too. That's another issue too.
When it could really be a test.
Well we're just volunteers, if the user is not interested in the help that's their loss. I've tried many times explaining what will happen and everything above, but at the end of the day it's up to the original poster to make a decision on whether they want to learn or not. I agree, we are their to guide them, the best we can, but we are not their parents, we cannot however tell them what to do.
I suppose this is good tactics. @misssunshinexxoxo Guess all we can do is doing our best... This post is just another "I wish..." kind of expression. But thanks for words.
You are right though, Geerky. This is a very useful post.
If a user only wants the answer, then they don't want help.
shoutout to calcmathlete to always going above and beyond the call of duty for helping me understand my problem
I think we should give a direct answer but first ask them about what do they think the answer is. Then we should give a very brief explanation about the question. Following this is a good way to answer a question.
Agree with Hero. We are here to help users with their studies. If they don't want to learn, its simply not worth our time. Just go to another post where a user might want to learn. There are many! Best way to help users who only want answers?? DON'T HELP. Don't waste your precious time.
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The fun thing about flvs assignments is that you have all the time in the world to get ready for your assignments, as there are no deadlines until you start taking a test or something. @usukidoll is kinda right. If you're not ready for an assignment (for an online school), it's kinda your fault for starting it before you're ready.
@poopsiedoodle my community college had cable tv and online courses for people who don't want to go to a traditional classroom. Every professor's course with that technology hybrid learning format had a syllabus and it said that although it's a go at your own pace course, the material moves fast, so it's best to stay on track. So, if a student is off by a day, then they are already behind. The same consequence goes for summer school at a university or community college. One day in summer school = 1 week worth of lectures.
Right, but how many people do you see here that come from an online college as opposed to connexus/flvs/k12/whatever else
not a whole lot on the college level but a truckload on connexus/flvs/k12/ It wasn't that much 3 years ago, but now there are tons. Word of mouth advertising at its finest.
best way is posting this: Here are all the answers to your test. I took this earlier, have fun! And oh, I got a 100% so it's totally worth copying off of here: http://pages.citebite.com/a4o3b6r4a2tjy