## anonymous one year ago Hey guys I am pretty clueless as to how I can talk my dog into not ruining my house by crapping everywhere. He has his own toilet. He does not look after his business in it. That's the problem. I've tried to talk him out of it like so many times but since he never listens I end up having to teach him a pain lesson. However I am not overly proud of using physical force to discipline a dog that cannot speak. This morning it happened again. I had to impart a lesson, but it hurts me more than it hurt my dog. Anyone ?

1. SolomonZelman

You can reward it's partial approximations to the goal that you want to reach. (Like Pavlov's psychological study with rats if I am not mistaken that is where the idea comes from)

2. imqwerty

u should give him some training :)

3. pooja195

How can a dog have its own toilet???

4. imqwerty

or u should appoint a maid for him :)

5. SolomonZelman

I am trying to (perhaps) propose the following: First reward the dog when it gets a certain distance away from its toilet. Then as time will go by minimize that distance, and stop rewarding it until it goes to the bathroom and then reward. After it gets used to the bathroom, stop rewards at all.

6. pooja195

You need to take him out more.

7. anonymous

Yeah so true @pooja195 he has his own place where he can do his business on a mat.

8. imqwerty

LOL @pooja195 dogs r same as small kids u must knw u were once a kid nd u were taught how to go to the toilet lol

9. SolomonZelman

I mean with that being said, rewarding approximations will get long and annoying. (I myself don't tolerate animals. I love them, but only from far away O~O)

10. anonymous

Ok @SolomonZelman that's an interesting reward system.

11. pooja195

uhhh i dont know what world u people live in but if its pooping everywhere u need to train it if not just take it on more walks dogs love walks :-)

12. SolomonZelman

Yes, still remember all that from my previous a while back psychology class that I took for another 3 credit hours.

13. anonymous

I understand how frustrating it is to live with animals but some of us are responsible for their life. We can't just dump them

14. imqwerty

u should ask someone to hypnotize ur dog nd teach him to use the toilet :)

15. SolomonZelman

That is a valid (and quite persuasive argument) ...

16. imqwerty

or u should enroll ur dog to some dog school :)

17. anonymous

Very true I wish it was that easy

18. SolomonZelman

It is not easy, i never said that

19. anonymous

I wish they understood our language.

20. anonymous

No I mean hypnotizing my dog into doing the business for his reserved zone

21. imqwerty

or u should take him to pooja she may teach him how to do that cause pooja is a QH :)

22. anonymous

Oh

23. imqwerty

LOL

24. SolomonZelman

it is long and annoying. Very long and anoying !!!! But, the only thing that is simple is the algorithm (the order of doing these things).

25. pooja195

Or ask the vet.............. :/ @Robert136 my friends dog understands hindi and gujuarti + english.....dogs are smarter than u think ;)

26. imqwerty

LOOLOL

27. SolomonZelman

Dogs can adopt to particular sounds too.

28. imqwerty

^

29. anonymous

Lol probably a few basic phrases.

30. mathmate

I like Solomon's idea. At least we know if it is converging or diverging!

31. pooja195

It eats indian food too :P

32. imqwerty

OMG!! really pooja

33. anonymous

It's not "it" it's "he" or "She"

34. anonymous

Dogs have emotions too

35. imqwerty

wait u said dog so its 'he'

36. mathmate

"it" means the process, not the dog!

37. mathmate

I mean the iterations, not process! lol

38. imqwerty

:)

39. anonymous

I'll probably try the partial approximations approach. Sounds pretty solid to me.

40. SolomonZelman

You know, not all humans go to a toilet, and to teach an animal to do that is kinda tough

41. SolomonZelman

lol

42. imqwerty

lel

43. anonymous

It sure is... some of us are that bad.

44. mathmate

Not all dogs like to do it at home. They like home to be clean too! :)

45. SolomonZelman

With reward approximations, again, you can teach even mice to do that.

46. SolomonZelman

but probably, with dogs it will be simpler and shorter than with mice

47. pooja195

@imqwerty it eats roti and rice :P

48. anonymous

Sure enough.

49. imqwerty

what if the dog is smrt it will only do what u want when it gets a prize :)

50. anonymous

Should I feel guilty when the only immediate solution is physical force to reinforce a discipline?

51. pooja195

Yes

52. SolomonZelman

I am sure one of your family friends is an expert when it comes to this kind of topics.... Advice a friends that actually knows about it:)

53. imqwerty

what if the dogs starts to do evrything for a prize :)

54. pooja195

Thats not the right way. You are hurting him emotionally and physically.

55. SolomonZelman

56. imqwerty

u'll get in trble :)

57. aj_harleyy

You should send him outside with some laxatives for the day and he should be good...same thing happened with my dogs and this worked just fine :)

58. anonymous

@pooja195 yeah you are right.

59. pooja195

Now apologize to the dog and give it a treat.

60. SolomonZelman

imqwetry, you don't always reward the dog, do you.

61. imqwerty

idk :) i mean......if the dog becomes greedy lol

62. SolomonZelman

If you did, then yes, it would only do for a prize. My younger brother got so spoiled that it is really hard to get him to do anything for free.

63. mathmate

Robert, do you take the dog out on a regular basis, like morning and evening, so he/she can plan for it?

64. imqwerty

he strts asking for prize for evrything he is told to do :)

65. anonymous

Well, it's all systematic then... not for the owner to have to clean everywhere.

66. imqwerty

nd pooja can u please change ur pfp :P

67. pooja195

No

68. imqwerty

:P

69. anonymous

I'd be disappointed if my bro started studying just so that he can get a little time for video game.

70. anonymous

That reward would start to dominate his life.

71. SolomonZelman

Why I like that red circle, except that the segments in it are kid of random, and no diameter or radius drawn.

72. pooja195

lulz @Robert136 GIVE THE DOG A TREAT NOW and apologize to him >:|

73. SolomonZelman

Put a pampers on your dog xD

74. imqwerty

lol

75. pooja195

Huggies works too ;)

76. anonymous

Ok @pooja195 I am gonna treat him now just a sec

77. pooja195

And say sorry and give it a kissy :3

78. imqwerty

:)

79. SolomonZelman

Good luck! (Oh, what is your dog's major ? $$\LARGE O\text{~}O$$ )

80. imqwerty

hehe

81. imqwerty

LOL

82. SolomonZelman

No, but you did remind me of my nephew (he is 9 months old). (Oh, forgot to mention he is not a dog:o )

83. pooja195

LOL

84. SolomonZelman

Ok, anyway, have fun!

85. SolomonZelman

Got to go to the math side, cu

86. imqwerty

solomon u r in which grade?

87. anonymous

Thanks all of you my dog is now sorta take-it-easy mood with meXD