anonymous
  • anonymous
Hey guys I am pretty clueless as to how I can talk my dog into not ruining my house by crapping everywhere. He has his own toilet. He does not look after his business in it. That's the problem. I've tried to talk him out of it like so many times but since he never listens I end up having to teach him a pain lesson. However I am not overly proud of using physical force to discipline a dog that cannot speak. This morning it happened again. I had to impart a lesson, but it hurts me more than it hurt my dog. Anyone ?
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SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
You can reward it's partial approximations to the goal that you want to reach. (Like Pavlov's psychological study with rats if I am not mistaken that is where the idea comes from)
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
u should give him some training :)
pooja195
  • pooja195
How can a dog have its own toilet???

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imqwerty
  • imqwerty
or u should appoint a maid for him :)
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
I am trying to (perhaps) propose the following: First reward the dog when it gets a certain distance away from its toilet. Then as time will go by minimize that distance, and stop rewarding it until it goes to the bathroom and then reward. After it gets used to the bathroom, stop rewards at all.
pooja195
  • pooja195
You need to take him out more.
anonymous
  • anonymous
Yeah so true @pooja195 he has his own place where he can do his business on a mat.
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
LOL @pooja195 dogs r same as small kids u must knw u were once a kid nd u were taught how to go to the toilet lol
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
I mean with that being said, rewarding approximations will get long and annoying. (I myself don't tolerate animals. I love them, but only from far away O~O)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Ok @SolomonZelman that's an interesting reward system.
pooja195
  • pooja195
uhhh i dont know what world u people live in but if its pooping everywhere u need to train it if not just take it on more walks dogs love walks :-)
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Yes, still remember all that from my previous a while back psychology class that I took for another 3 credit hours.
anonymous
  • anonymous
I understand how frustrating it is to live with animals but some of us are responsible for their life. We can't just dump them
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
u should ask someone to hypnotize ur dog nd teach him to use the toilet :)
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
That is a valid (and quite persuasive argument) ...
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
or u should enroll ur dog to some dog school :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Very true I wish it was that easy
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
It is not easy, i never said that
anonymous
  • anonymous
I wish they understood our language.
anonymous
  • anonymous
No I mean hypnotizing my dog into doing the business for his reserved zone
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
or u should take him to pooja she may teach him how to do that cause pooja is a QH :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Oh
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
LOL
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
it is long and annoying. Very long and anoying !!!! But, the only thing that is simple is the algorithm (the order of doing these things).
pooja195
  • pooja195
Or ask the vet.............. :/ @Robert136 my friends dog understands hindi and gujuarti + english.....dogs are smarter than u think ;)
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
LOOLOL
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Dogs can adopt to particular sounds too.
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
^
anonymous
  • anonymous
Lol probably a few basic phrases.
mathmate
  • mathmate
I like Solomon's idea. At least we know if it is converging or diverging!
pooja195
  • pooja195
It eats indian food too :P
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
OMG!! really pooja
anonymous
  • anonymous
It's not "it" it's "he" or "She"
anonymous
  • anonymous
Dogs have emotions too
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
wait u said dog so its 'he'
mathmate
  • mathmate
"it" means the process, not the dog!
mathmate
  • mathmate
I mean the iterations, not process! lol
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
:)
anonymous
  • anonymous
I'll probably try the partial approximations approach. Sounds pretty solid to me.
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
You know, not all humans go to a toilet, and to teach an animal to do that is kinda tough
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
lol
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
lel
anonymous
  • anonymous
It sure is... some of us are that bad.
mathmate
  • mathmate
Not all dogs like to do it at home. They like home to be clean too! :)
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
With reward approximations, again, you can teach even mice to do that.
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
but probably, with dogs it will be simpler and shorter than with mice
pooja195
  • pooja195
@imqwerty it eats roti and rice :P
anonymous
  • anonymous
Sure enough.
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
what if the dog is smrt it will only do what u want when it gets a prize :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Should I feel guilty when the only immediate solution is physical force to reinforce a discipline?
pooja195
  • pooja195
Yes
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
I am sure one of your family friends is an expert when it comes to this kind of topics.... Advice a friends that actually knows about it:)
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
what if the dogs starts to do evrything for a prize :)
pooja195
  • pooja195
Thats not the right way. You are hurting him emotionally and physically.
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Advise*
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
u'll get in trble :)
aj_harleyy
  • aj_harleyy
You should send him outside with some laxatives for the day and he should be good...same thing happened with my dogs and this worked just fine :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
@pooja195 yeah you are right.
pooja195
  • pooja195
Now apologize to the dog and give it a treat.
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
imqwetry, you don't always reward the dog, do you.
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
idk :) i mean......if the dog becomes greedy lol
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
If you did, then yes, it would only do for a prize. My younger brother got so spoiled that it is really hard to get him to do anything for free.
mathmate
  • mathmate
Robert, do you take the dog out on a regular basis, like morning and evening, so he/she can plan for it?
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
he strts asking for prize for evrything he is told to do :)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Well, it's all systematic then... not for the owner to have to clean everywhere.
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
nd pooja can u please change ur pfp :P
pooja195
  • pooja195
No
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
:P
anonymous
  • anonymous
I'd be disappointed if my bro started studying just so that he can get a little time for video game.
anonymous
  • anonymous
That reward would start to dominate his life.
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Why I like that red circle, except that the segments in it are kid of random, and no diameter or radius drawn.
pooja195
  • pooja195
lulz @Robert136 GIVE THE DOG A TREAT NOW and apologize to him >:|
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Put a pampers on your dog xD
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
lol
pooja195
  • pooja195
Huggies works too ;)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Ok @pooja195 I am gonna treat him now just a sec
pooja195
  • pooja195
And say sorry and give it a kissy :3
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
:)
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Good luck! (Oh, what is your dog's major ? \(\LARGE O\text{~}O\) )
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
hehe
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
LOL
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
No, but you did remind me of my nephew (he is 9 months old). (Oh, forgot to mention he is not a dog:o )
pooja195
  • pooja195
LOL
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Ok, anyway, have fun!
SolomonZelman
  • SolomonZelman
Got to go to the math side, cu
imqwerty
  • imqwerty
solomon u r in which grade?
anonymous
  • anonymous
Thanks all of you my dog is now sorta take-it-easy mood with meXD

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