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AbdullahM

  • one year ago

Hi, I have heard that moderators tend to ignore reports that are left blank. Is this true? Thanks.

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  1. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    I think they would try to investigate it but it is really hard to take care of the report when no info is provided its also alot of work :/ then again im not a mod what do i know xd

  2. AbdullahM
    • one year ago
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    I believe that if moderators actually do that, then it is unfair because it clearly states when you press the report button, "Add your comments below (optional)." But then again, OpemStudy needs to revamp their whole moderating system, and the moderator's casual attitude to spam.

  3. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    I agree, Mods are slacking or being to strict at this rate no one will be left on this site my question got deleted but it was a complete valid math question <----if that same mod actually responded to the reports that were being filed it would have been better.

  4. AbdullahM
    • one year ago
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    True, true.

  5. Abhisar
    • one year ago
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    Moderator's don't ignore any kind of activity which is against the code of conduct. It doesn't matters if you send in a blank report or don't even send in a report. We just request you to send us a properly explained report against any such activity so that it could become easier for us to look into.

  6. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    Sometimes reports are ignored.

  7. pooja195
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    When the attar spamming attacks took place many mods were on no one did anything there are only a few mods that take action on attar

  8. Abhisar
    • one year ago
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    You need to understand one thing that this community is mostly run by community aid on voluntary basis. People who love learning and teaching and love this community like moderators and ambassadors have agreed to look after it in their free time. All of the moderators have their own life and they are probably very busy with it. What I am trying to imply is that moderating this site is not their primary goal. So it's not fair to blame any one of them if they missed a few reports. In addition to that moderators don't have any such tool as IP ban so it's unpractical to sit, watch and keep banning attar like trolls who have pledged to duel with mods. They get banned and come again within a second with new account. It's much more practical to leave them alone without providing any attention for a while while. Moderation with limited abilities is not so easy as it might look to you. i hope you get the point. Thanks.

  9. AbdullahM
    • one year ago
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    So, we basically need more moderators, and better moderating tools, and we're not gettimg any of those?

  10. AbdullahM
    • one year ago
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    getting*

  11. Jaynator495
    • one year ago
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    unfortunately the mod reports do not tell where they are, what they are reporting etc, it only says who was reported, and who reported them. With this said they dont even know what their investigating unless you tell them!

  12. Compassionate
    • one year ago
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    Most of the time, no -- but when they're flooded with blank chat reports with no context, slightly, yes, it's hard to decipher right v. wrong.

  13. Zale101
    • one year ago
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    @Jaynator495 : “unfortunately the mod reports do not tell where they are, what they are reporting etc, it only says who was reported, and who reported them. With this said they dont even know what their investigating unless you tell them! ” This is not true. When users report other users it says this person reported this post made by this other person. Mods can click on that post and it can forward to chats, messages, or posts, depends on where the message got reported. Mods do know what they re investigating. Once they click the post a user got reported for, we can check through the chats or posts. You can also know that when reporting. When you report, you click on a comment to report it and that comment, along with the rest of the discussion, gets forwarded to the moderators. Like what @compassionate mentioned, what makes it hard for mods is when reports are filled with no comments/reason and when you click on the post that got reported, the message is normal or does not violate the CoC. However, this confuses us because there is no comments in the reports and the message that got reported is appropriate. That is why we encourage users to report bad messages and posts made by other users or please please type a comment or a reason on why you are reporting.

  14. Zale101
    • one year ago
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    You could have left a blank report but reported a message that showed a bad behavior. That is reasonable. But do not report a message that is normal like “Hey ” or whatever and leave the reports blank with no reasons whatsoever. However, If you reported “ Hey” because it was a spam, we could tell because we will click on the post and it will forward us to chats, in that way we can tell it was a spam.

  15. Zale101
    • one year ago
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    Simply, do not leave the comment section blank or just report on the message that is inappropriate for the CoC.

  16. confluxepic
    • one year ago
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    If people can't spend a bit of time writing an explanation in the report, then what makes them think that the moderators will spend a bit of time trying to make sense of their report?

  17. jagr2713
    • one year ago
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    Wow you guys need to leave the mods alone... Mods have lives and no one is perfect... Not at the time they will be available and sometimes not. Just chill out. They are doing their best to help this site :D RELAX!!

  18. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    @Abhisar @Zale101 @confluxepic and @jagr2713 I understand that mods are volunteers but i see mods in the chats if they have time to chat they should have time to deal with reports. Now i dont mean this in a rude way i'm just saying we need more mods or give ambassadors tools(To atleast help maintain chats).

  19. jagr2713
    • one year ago
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    Well mods need some time to actually use the site or a "Day off" And i thought ambassadors jobs were to WELCOME NEW USERS. But its not a bad idea thought but at the same time, give the mods a break :D They are human too :D

  20. Jaynator495
    • one year ago
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    "@Jaynator495 : “unfortunately the mod reports do not tell where they are, what they are reporting etc, it only says who was reported, and who reported them. With this said they dont even know what their investigating unless you tell them! ” This is not true. When users report other users it says this person reported this post made by this other person. Mods can click on that post and it can forward to chats, messages, or posts, depends on where the message got reported. Mods do know what they re investigating. Once they click the post a user got reported for, we can check through the chats or posts. You can also know that when reporting. When you report, you click on a comment to report it and that comment, along with the rest of the discussion, gets forwarded to the moderators. Like what @compassionate mentioned, what makes it hard for mods is when reports are filled with no comments/reason and when you click on the post that got reported, the message is normal or does not violate the CoC. However, this confuses us because there is no comments in the reports and the message that got reported is appropriate. That is why we encourage users to report bad messages and posts made by other users or please please type a comment or a reason on why you are reporting." Since when is this a thing? O-o

  21. jagr2713
    • one year ago
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    *sigh*

  22. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    @jagr2713 Im not going against the mods i have nothing against them, they have a job (voluntary) they should do it right. At this rate people will leave OS because the mods aren't very efficient in keeping the site clean. Yes thats the job of ambi's but it wouldn't hut to give a little power atleast to maintain the chats.

  23. jagr2713
    • one year ago
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    @pooja195 i agree with that idea for the ambi's. Again like you said its voluntary work so they dont have to do all this. But at the same time they do try but they are busy and some have different time zones and some might be on and some wont.

  24. Zale101
    • one year ago
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    @pooja195: "I understand that mods are volunteers but i see mods in the chats if they have time to chat they should have time to deal with reports. Now i dont mean this in a rude way i'm just saying we need more mods or give ambassadors tools(To atleast help maintain chats). " Mods can chat and maintain the chats and reports at the same-time. What makes you think not?

  25. Compassionate
    • one year ago
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    A common inconsistency is the void of crucial detail and context. It takes explaining and insight most of the time. A lot of bully doesn't have to do with direct insults and verbal abuse -- and most violations are indirect and passive statements. That's all.

  26. AbdullahM
    • one year ago
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    So, what we need now is: 1) More moderators, so more mods can take breaks because they have their own lives 2) Better moderating tools 3) Better reporting system. Besides the comments part, we can add a feature where users can select a reason out of the many reasons why stuff are reported. 4) A way for moderators to check reports without having to go to the post 5) A better moderator log so that way moderators can see all the action that happened on a post and not by user. 6) Ability for one mod to take one report. Why are 2 moderators able to take the same report and give 2 warnings/suspensions to a user? :)

  27. AbdullahM
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    The list goes on and on. (:

  28. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    @Zale101 ofc they can maintain the chat but what about the reports on a post that never get taken care of ?

  29. jagr2713
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    i agree with @Zale101 and @pooja195 not every mod are the same. Some don't help right away (Which needs to be fixed) and others do.

  30. pooja195
    • one year ago
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    @jagr2713 Im just being honest i apperciate what the mods do ive been on this site long enough to know what mods take action and which dont ik mods are different.

  31. jagr2713
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    Well if you understand then you will understand that they can make mistakes sometimes become lazy lol. But i hope these mods are fixed or select new ones or even ambi's.

  32. KendrickLamar2014
    • one year ago
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    I have noticed in the last couple of days that there have been an increase of people breaking the rules on OS. If Mods don't take care of this, then what will happen? People will leave OS like people were saying. But even worse, people wont care if they break the rules because they know they wont be punished. Also, people who want to make OS a better place will just not care about reporting because they know there will be little consequences to certain users that break the rules. What we need is: People who dedicate a great portion of there time to OS, and actually want to end Spam and etc. These people we need to add to the group of Mod's on OS. What will this do? This will make spammers think twice before breaking the rules. This will minimize the breakage of rules.

  33. anonymous
    • one year ago
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    or you could all stop caring and speed up this sites inevitable demise

  34. anonymous
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    and why would you want to clean the chats the only we need to get rid of is the openstudy daters and openstudy suicide threatners

  35. KendrickLamar2014
    • one year ago
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    We can also get rid of the people who dont care about OS rules! @mathsciencehistory

  36. EclipsedStar
    • one year ago
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    We can all use some chillaxing smoothies once in a while XD As for the most recent comments above this one, I want to give my input @mathsciencehistory and @KendrickLamar2014 ... I was once a rule breaker. I didn't care about the rules and openly defied them. Then my mistakes were pointed out and I changed my policy. I do believe that everyone else can follow suit should they choose to do so, so there isn't a need to "get rid" of any user. Some users do take more time than others to change their minds, and others choose not to abide by them at all (such as the infamous chat spamming), which is totally up to them (but they must be willing to face any consequences that they would be well aware of even thought they might not receive it at the same moment they commit the mistake). As for spammers, I once suggested having email verification to be required before posting in chats. This will maintain those spammers that make fake accounts using gibberish emails, lol. Now, about AbdullahM's initial inquiry about mods not paying much attention to blank reports: I do personally believe that is true, and I have wondered if reports of posts/replies/chat/messaging that are left blank are really at fault and some people report just because they "feel" that the offender is breaking rules and aren't basing the reports on the violation of the CoC. So, mods don't have a sound basis as to what is going on and may choose to not go over. I agree with providing input as to why specifically you are reporting, as @Zale101 emphasized. :) As for the suggestions of getting a better mod system, I can't say that I don't agree (given the mishaps I have seen before), but in my opinion there isn't really a need to improve the "tools" of IP ban and whatnot. I think what the mods have currently is adequate. Mods have changed plenty of users' actions and thoughts already, but there is always going to be "rebels" around and new users that have not read the CoC and thus don't abide to them. It is advised that the users that uphold the rules guide them to the right path and be good role models in the academic group society that we call OS. :)

  37. Jaynator495
    • one year ago
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    MOTHER OF GOD THATS A LOT OF WORDS!

  38. Jaynator495
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    mind if i turn that in for my research essay? LMAO

  39. anonymous
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    hmm i don't try to follow the rules but i try not to break them most of the time. now if someone tries to be too hard on me for something that really doesn't matter and if there's no reason to be so strict like the other day someone was bothering someone else for asking a question because it was flvs then i asked a mod and he said as long as there's no direct answers its fine and this guy was nonstop harassing this girl. so i got in there and started going after him myself to get the attention away from her so all through the day i kept making jabs at him and come to find out he was breaking most of the rules himself and he was messing with that girl on purpose he was doing it repeatedly altho i think @Callisto handled it im not sure

  40. AbdullahM
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    @eclipsedstar, the actual problem is that mods are ignoring both reports that are left blank and reports that are not left blank. What do you think should happen to spam when it is reported? If it's a spam post, is is sufficient to close it? Or should it be deleted? And like how @kendricklamar2014 said, after a while users who report will stop reporting if they see no action is done because it is a waste of time.

  41. KendrickLamar2014
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    ^

  42. EclipsedStar
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    Again, it's the mod's jurisdiction on what they choose to do and when they do it...you can always message them about it, I find that pretty effective ( I get immediate replies most of the time). Granted, some mods changed their message settings, but the majority you can converse actively with. My thoughts on spam reports aren't really going to matter, given that I'm not a mod anyways...depends on the offense of the spam I guess. New users would be shocked if their post was suddenly deleted out of the blue while they aren't aware of the rules, whilst older users making offensive spam posts would surely be deleted. :P

  43. confluxepic
    • one year ago
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    This post seems orderly.

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